midnight club...

[timber715]

@Jay

You mentioned that the timing belt gave while the person was driving, what happens when that occurs, is there a loud sound or does the engine just stall and shut down?
you would be very happy if you don't hear much Moji. the louder the noise, the bigger the damage.
breaks in the belt will create different sounds depending on condition. running at high speed when it happens can be very dangerous. and damage will be extensive. breaking them at idle will cause little noise and damage...

[moji]

running at high speed when it happens can be very dangerous. and damage will be extensive

Now that is scary..I wish i knew more about automotive stuff..sometimes i wish i took the automotive shop back in high school..

[jarod]

A late model Honda CRV was just towed to my home shop today. The suv has 140+ km and still with the original timing belt installed. Apparently it broke while owner was driving.

This could be messy and very expensive to fix. Hondas have Interference type engines. Belt breaks valves go too and what others we don't know yet as of now.

Please always be aware of your vehicles' Timing Belt replacement interval. Replacing the TB at the required manufacturer's interval is cheap insurance compared to the consequences if this maintenance sched is neglected or prolonged.
+1 these small little expensive items could lead to magnified expenses like overhauling or worse engine replacement when left unmaintained.

My Mazda 323's B6 DOHC engine is may not be as tuneable like the Hondas but the non-interference design gives it a little piece of mind whenever the dreadful belt tear happens.
will that consequences possible with other car models?say a toyota altis?
I believe the Altises also have non-interference design but better check the engine specs just to be sure as many cars have the same body but different engine specs, aside from the fact that it may also vary from different domestic markets. So if you have a stock one, better consult with your manual.

A car club is also a helpful venue to have more friends and gain more knowledge in terms of your car's maintenance. These fora are actually a goldmine of information since it would give you a real local feedback of what's happening and what to dos.

There is grupotoyota, altisclubzz and toyotaclubphil that you could join and have fun while learning.

broken timing belts will often result to damages in the valve train and even sa pistons whatever make or model.
timing belts are often recommended to be replaced when the 100,000km mark is reached... I always have mine replaced at 80,000 kms.
For non-interference engines, this would be an exception as the pistons won't be able to meet the valves in any way as it continues to go up and down while the valves are static. Worse thing that could happen is you'll stall and be towed.

Is the kms accumulated the only measure as when to replace the timing belt? Im just curious because our rav4 is a 2006 model but has only 13k+ kilometers on it..
Just like in engine oils, you need to consider the quality, time and range spent by your timing belt.

Your car's manual also has a maintenance schedule where it shows what things are to be check and/or tightened and/or replaced for every X kilometers.

Sometimes, the belts gets easily worn due to the material used. Usually cheap replacements would only do more harm as it will wear earlier and may stall you in an expected time and place.It would just cause you to pay for a tow, buy another belt and another labor charge which is more expensive than having an original(OEM) or a good Japan replacement used in the first place.

Also sometimes, incorrect setting of the tension bearing causes the belt grooves to slide/jump to another teeth and cause damage to the belt. There are many causes and the only way to prevent it is to have a periodical check even when it's not already due.

[JayL]

@Jay

You mentioned that the timing belt gave while the person was driving, what happens when that occurs, is there a loud sound or does the engine just stall and shut down?

I have not experienced it myself . What I tell my family members is that when driving and the car suddenly stalls without no apparent reason at all then just let it be. Push it to the side and don't try to start the engine anymore. In case it is a broken timing belt then the chances of other complications can probably be avoided.

[jarod]

@Jay

You mentioned that the timing belt gave while the person was driving, what happens when that occurs, is there a loud sound or does the engine just stall and shut down?
On an interference engine, valves and pistons occupy an area where they overlap. With a timing belt, they work in a harmonious way so as one of them occupies that overlapped area. When the belt snaps, the valves stops moving (this is because the cam shaft connected to the cam gear is not anymore rotating since there is no more belt that helps the gear and shaft to rotate) while the piston continues to go up and down (since it's connected to a different shaft - a crank shaft)

When that happens, a valve that is in extended position will continue to remain on that position while the piston extends upward to occupy the "overlapping" area, it would hit the valve(s).
These would lead to metals banging and bending in a very rapid motion and scare the sh1t out of anyone. Even when in idle, your engine is revving at around 800 RPMs so it is quite a handful event as well even when not in high speed.

In a non-interference engine, the valve and pistons don't meet in whatsoever condition. So when the belt snaps and the valves stucks, the piston won't hit any part of it. There will be just no combustion which will lead to stalling.

[jarod]

Here is a good visualization of what happens inside the engine...

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:4-Stroke-Engine.gifhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/4-Stroke-Engine.gif

At Time#1 and 4 you could see the intake and outtake valves go down and occupy a space in the cylinder bore where the piston also occupies at some point in time. The valves go down when it is being pushed by the camlobe (egg shaped). The lobe is a part of the camshaft that rotates with the cam gears that is driven by the timing belt. When the belt snaps all of those stops so some of the valves freezes on the space that will soon occupied by the piston.

The piston on the other hand continues to move as it is connected to a crank shaft which is independent to the parts above. The cam shaft and crank shaft is connected though the timing belt so no belt or incorrect timing will not make the engine work as intended.

[jarod]

Sample pics then the piston and valves meet
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:3WByBfOIOuxnAM:http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/tinman19672009/DSCN4528.jpg&t=1 (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:3WByBfOIOuxnAM:http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp80/tinman19672009/DSCN4528.jpg&t=1)

http://lowcostautorepair.org/images/Broken%20Timing%20Belt%20-%20Bent%20Valves.jpg (http://lowcostautorepair.org/images/Broken%20Timing%20Belt%20-%20Bent%20Valves.jpg)

In a non-interference engine, the piston has a recess (piston/valve seat) where the valve could occupy without hitting the piston
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ljooJuY1bI81pM:http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6799/1500austspecx19piston.jpg&t=1 (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ljooJuY1bI81pM:http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6799/1500austspecx19piston.jpg&t=1)

[jarod]

Here is the poor CRV sitting outside in the rain across my garage. Autospeed mechanic is still busy so he might not be able to work on it till day after tomorrow. I'll try to shoot some pics when we pull the job. Towing alone from Quezon City to Pasay cost 3,100 pesos already.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP1574.jpg
Tito Jay, Now I know where you live na! I'll drop by your place on Christmas! Ang lapit lang pala! Advance Xmas Ninong Jay! :D

[JayL]

Saan ba ang place mo Jarod? Sa me malapit sa likod lang kaya ako ng Motor Pool / Firestation sa Arnaiz St ( Pasay Road ).

At times like these I wish I had a Boroscope.

http://www.amazon.com/Milwaukee-2300-20-M-Spector-Digital-Inspection/dp/B001AOVBHG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1289380443&sr=8-8

I could inspect the inside of the combustion chambers through the spark plug holes.http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[jarod]

Yup, lapit lang tayo Ninong! :D

Sa Aurora lang ako :P

[JayL]

Yup, lapit lang tayo Ninong! :D

Sa Aurora lang ako :P

You mean sa me likod lang ng cockpit. Malapit nga. Hehehe :)

[jonathanscruz68]

WOW!!!very sound advice sir jarod and sir jayL.i do follow rhe periodic maintenance of the car,but this timing belt or chain is another matter,like moji says,i too should have studied these automotive courses hehehe,or another hobby ulit.on this timing chain/belt replacement,any advice or recommendation on where to go,sa kasa or to any reputable car care center?

[JayL]

I inquired at Honda Makati today about engine overhauling. I was informed that they do not do this but instead takes of the engine and sends it to the factory. They term I was given by the service adviser was Re Manufacturing. From the factory it's sent back to the dealer for re installation. Cost 50K up depending on the problem.

[JayL]

Bros,

Where do you think I could purchase this battery.

Pentax D-LI3. It's for a point and shoot cam Model Optio M40.

I can get it from amazon but would like to buy locally so I can use it immediately.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NUN2HA/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Thanks for any help.

[jarod]

WOW!!!very sound advice sir jarod and sir jayL.i do follow rhe periodic maintenance of the car,but this timing belt or chain is another matter,like moji says,i too should have studied these automotive courses hehehe,or another hobby ulit.on this timing chain/belt replacement,any advice or recommendation on where to go,sa kasa or to any reputable car care center?
It depends on what your car brand is. Most would say that if your car is already out of warranty, it would be more practical to bring it to "reputable shops" rather than in a casa.

As I mentioned, car clubs provide a goldmin of information to all your car's needs ;)
Bros,

Where do you think I could purchase this battery.

Pentax D-LI3. It's for a point and shoot cam Model Optio M40.

I can get it from amazon but would like to buy locally so I can use it immediately.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NUN2HA/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Thanks for any help.
You may contact the ff below as they are the main distributor or Pentax in the Philippines:
The Super East Asia Main Office
1633 Ground Flr. Rothman Hotel,
M. Adriatico Street, Malate Manila.
Tel/Fax : (02) 524-4604 / (02) 303-2553

[JayL]

@Jarod

You are the PHM link Master.

Thanks for the info.

[jarod]

No problem Jay, just paying it forward ;)

[timber715]

Today is the birthday of my Mentor, the one who started me into woodworking, metal-working and everything DIY, he is my late grandfather. From whom I got a lot of my tools.
So to anyone who want to pass by the court(Paco, Manila), sharpen some handplane blade or chisels or use the Bosch ts or just chat, come over... I will prepare some food but not much... offer good till 8pm only though :p

if you don't know the place you can text me at 0921-3738020

[JayL]

Happy Birthday Gramps. Your legacy lives and moves on in Timb. http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Saw your post late already. It would have been a perfect time to pickup my tool. :(

[timber715]

hey Jarod, thanks for coming over and spending time... thanks for the dessert as well...

[jarod]

No problemo! Di ko nabasa agad na birthday pala ni Grampa mo! Magkasunod lang pala ano? :D

Hope the wifey would like the cathedral as well :)

[timber715]

I always thought that carbide cuts the wood, never thought that thin kerf is the vital thing in saw blades... the master in saw blade (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=121859)with 20 years of experience in the industry.

[bryant77]

I always thought that carbide cuts the wood, never thought that thin kerf is the vital thing in saw blades... the master in saw blade (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=121859)with 20 years of experience in the industry.

Wowww, that's a long and interesting discussion.

Hey timb did you find on your sleep what HiATB means?

[timber715]

Wowww, that's a long and interesting discussion.

Hey timb did you find on your sleep what HiATB means?
I met him in my dream... mabait pala sya, matulis pero mabait... :D

[ossie]

do you have plans to have a get together for us members by playing sports like bowling, badminton, biking, basketball, track and field, rugby hahahaha etc ???

[timber715]

I leave it up to you to organize something. getting tired of organizing and little show up eh....
my small shop in Paco is free, the badminton court we can use for a fee...:D

[ossie]

waahhh im not good in organizing activities or events :D

[timber715]

I'm planning to open my shop for those who want to use powertools for free, but there is an electricity charge of 100.00 per visit.
Planning pa lang, is there anyone who will be interested in this?

[jonathanscruz68]

I'm planning to open my shop for those who want to use powertools for free, but there is an electricity charge of 100.00 per visit.
Planning pa lang, is there anyone who will be interested in this?

that would be nice,but my place is too far from your place...dreaming to have a hold of those 4100,2012nb,triton,and many more...your place is a good place to learn more of those woodworking stuff...pede magbakasyon jan?hahaha!:p:p:p

[moji]

Hey guys,

What is the easiest route to go to antipolo? I need to go there on saturday and i have no idea how to get there. I would be coming from makati.

[jarod]

EDSA --> Ortigas --> Ortigas Extension --> Antipolo or you may follow the Antipolo jeeps stationed in Araneta.

[moji]

Thanks! Just looked at the map and it looks like the easiest route going there.:)

[timber715]

skype anyone?

[timber715]

I need a Bandsaw...:mad:

lots of resawing needed soon... but no money for it :mad:


:p :D

[moji]

Uuuyyy! Bibili na siya!

What do you need to resaw?

[timber715]

Uuuyyy! Bibili na siya!

What do you need to resaw?
at least 12" wide mahogany...

[JayL]

Looks like space is not really a problem. Go go go na Timb. You can store it inside and resaw outside for bigger stock.

In the absence of a band saw would those big old style saws still work to cut the stock? I don't know the name of the saw but these are the ones used before power tools became popular.:) :)

[timber715]

Looks like space is not really a problem. Go go go na Timb. You can store it inside and resaw outside for bigger stock.

In the absence of a band saw would those big old style saws still work to cut the stock? I don't know the name of the saw but these are the ones used before power tools became popular.:) :)
hehehe, no budget at this time bro... saving for a gorgeous lady named Harbeth ;), besides that machine would eat up my space... I would probably do my resaw using the ts... for now:D

[moji]

@ Jarod,

Anong brand nung maliit mong flashlight na dala mo kanina? At san nakakabili nun?

[timber715]

busy busy week, little woodworking time... but I did manage to make a plinth for my tube pre amp...
from this...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_0692.jpg
to this, dry fitting pa lang...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_0691.jpg

[jarod]

@ Jarod,

Anong brand nung maliit mong flashlight na dala mo kanina? At san nakakabili nun?
Hi Moji, Sorry for the late reply, it was a gift from my wife. It's a Fenix LD10 that uses a single AA battery. Has 5 modes and comes with a holster, extra seals and rubber switch. I think she got for around 3K from user "fenixlight" at pinoyguns.com website.

busy busy week, little woodworking time... but I did manage to make a plinth for my tube pre amp...
from this...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_0692.jpg
to this, dry fitting pa lang...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/IMG_0691.jpg

Pwede! :D

[macG]

I leave it up to you to organize something. getting tired of organizing and little show up eh....
my small shop in Paco is free, the badminton court we can use for a fee...:D

How much is the court fee?

Potluck EB is always good.

[macG]

that would be nice,but my place is too far from your place...dreaming to have a hold of those 4100,2012nb,triton,and many more...your place is a good place to learn more of those woodworking stuff...pede magbakasyon jan?hahaha!:p:p

Sama ako sa "bakasyon" mo, jonathan? :D:D

[JayL]

I need battery for my Pentax Point and Shoot digicam. Am thinking to get original or replacement. Both China made. What do you think guys. I have not much experience buying stuff like this.

Here's the orig rated at 740maH

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NUN2HA/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A2W92G4AJJZF7B


Here' a replacement rated at 1000maH


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CS7UAM/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

[violaine]

maybe best to get the one that is labeled "pentax" hehe...get two not just one if you trust your digicam to last another 4 years.:p

[ossie]

he prefer only one, coz after a year, he will going to buy a new "battery" with a new camera model :D

[JayL]

Blade Runner

https://www.rockwellbladerunner.com/

[timber715]

Blade Runner

https://www.rockwellbladerunner.com/
nice little tool, looks like a jigsaw bottom mounted with a blade guard... Don't like one though, seems like another one of those tv promos. not for me, I have everything that does and better... :D

[timber715]

Moji... akala ko ba tulog ka na? :D

[moji]

Patulog na..hehe gudnyt!

[JayL]

Moji ... post ka naman ng mga pics ng mga tools loot mo.

Thanks

[moji]

Jay,

Anong tools yung ipost ko?

[JayL]

Yun mga pinadating mo sana para makita namin.

[moji]

Ah the veritas stuff? Cge, i will take pics of it and post later..

[JayL]

OK. Thanks

You can add the Bessey clamps too if you have pics. :)

[moji]

Ok, but i think i posted the besseys in the clamps thread..i think..

[timber715]

oist... :D ano meron? may gimmick ba? ;)

kung wala eh di gawa tayo...:eek::eek:

[JayL]

Walang mga WIPs post lately :(

We did some car suspension works yesterday but did not take pics anymore. Boring WIP.

I'll probably make my last tool purchase ( tomorrow ) for this year unless a "you really suck " deal pops out.

[timber715]

Walang mga WIPs post lately :(

We did some car suspension works yesterday but did not take pics anymore. Boring WIP.

I'll probably make my last tool purchase ( tomorrow ) for this year unless a "you really suck " deal pops out.
making progress sa desk build ko Jay, but with the messed up schedules, little to no pictures were taken...

[moji]

Jay! free shipping veritas ngayon hehe :p

[JayL]

For us we just did some stabilizer links / bushings replacement.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/IMGP1778.jpg

and an AC Job too ( Evaporator / Filter Drier and Expansion Valve replacement ). This is still subcontracted fully as I don't have the tools yet.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/IMGP1779.jpg

[timber715]

Jay! free shipping veritas ngayon hehe :p
pwede... got another shipment about to leave soon...

daming aswang talaga pagdating ng 130am... :p

[JayL]

pwede... got another shipment about to leave soon...

daming aswang talaga pagdating ng 130am... :p


I don't have budget for woodworking tools pa :(

[moji]

Bagong balikbayan box yan timb?

[JayL]

Mga Skype boys pala na ka online ....... Na addict na si Moji sa Veritas and Lee Valley. Good tools ... go go go. Real investments and value might even go higher in the future.

[timber715]

Bagong balikbayan box yan timb?
nope, nakakita ako ng Pierre Cardin na luggages at gusto ni bossing... lightning deal eh :D

[JayL]

Mas maganda. Naka P.C. luggage pa mga tools pag ship. Sossy!!! ;)

[timber715]

mag skype na lang kaya tayo?

[JayL]

mag skype na lang kaya tayo?

Probably tomorrow. I have to go horizontal now. Tiring day for me.

Good Night bros.

[timber715]

may interesting tool na gusto si moji pala eh... sige Jay. goodnight...:D

[timber715]

so it is the time when I'm in cebu with the in-laws, had some time to check some wood...
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/P1000098.jpg
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/P1000100.jpg
kaya lang hindi na rough... :D

[jarod]

Wow, lotsa bass traps and Harbeths! :D

[violaine]

omg!

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(site wouldnt allow me to post just a single "omg!" hehe)

[timber715]

those are multi million set ups Doc, and they actually sound much much better than they look. so you can just imagine how good they are... someday I will have my own...

[JayL]

Are these available in the malls like in Ace, True Value etc...


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006IBNJ/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A25DVOZOPBFMAN

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XBH9HI/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3NUNNXXHUJDMF

[timber715]

both are available in True Value Jay...

[JayL]

I'll check it out then. No need to order from amazon and suffer the waiting.

Thanks Timb.

[beebeenator]

May EB ba january? Hmmm baka we can set a fixed date everymonth for EB

[timber715]

May EB ba january? Hmmm baka we can set a fixed date everymonth for EB
Yes, temporary eb date is after payday and when the boxes of tools arrive, temporarily set at Jan 18 or the saturday/sunday after.
sounds good to me, we can even have a project every eb if you like...

[violaine]

nakakamiss ang dami food sa eb! lol

i wish i could eat more..agh!

[violaine]

oh harbeth harbeth harbeth!

[timber715]

oh harbeth harbeth harbeth!
basta brader, padinig ko sa yo pag dumating, and if you still don't want to get back to audio ewan ko lang... :D

pero kung ayaw mo talaga, then pamana mo na lang sakin plaka mo... :D

[jarod]

For us we just did some stabilizer links / bushings replacement.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/IMGP1778.jpg

Hi JayL,

How would you know if it's time na to change it? Baka kasi ito yung cause ng "tok" sound ko when I turn.

Remember I asked about it before and baka CV or rack and pinion but it seems hindi naman. The sound is produced when I step on the breaks then do a tight turn lalo na kung inclined or malubak. tried it without stepping on the brakes and no sound is produced.

[JayL]

Usually pag stabilizer link prob rattle noise yan.

I remember I had the same tok problem with my GSR before and it was Rack End causing it. However yours have a breaking issue so it's complicated. Probably the breaking gives it added pressure to cause the sound.

My GSR rack ends replaced.


http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP2514.jpg

The other side connects to the Tie Rods.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP2515.jpg


Bring it to Zafra and get a free inspection.

[jarod]

Thanks Jay, I think the brake issue adds a factor on the sound it produced.

Btw, is Zafra still reliable and trustworthy? I asked this because I read a lot of negative stories about it and Cruven and Zee is more preferred.

[jarod]

I was thinking, is a table saw with a dado blade more favorable than using a router when making finger joints? Or are there other factors that I am missing?

[violaine]

lets ask timber...my two cents is that...both can produce tight fitting finger joints...if you have a TS and a dado blade then go for it..if you just have the router then there is no other option.hehe

but it is always fulfilling if you can produce tight fitting finger joints on either tools..

but frankly, the way i look at it..i would always think twice which is easier...changing to a dado or changing to a straight bit?

i guess you are not missing anything at all...no one can say one is better than the other for this purpose alone as long as you can produce nice fitting finger joints...that is the bottom line after all.

the one who is missing a lot is the one who makes finger joints from just hand tools.
;)

[JayL]

Leigh Jig na lang. :cool:

Di ba pwede din sa finger joints ito.

[violaine]

basta brader, padinig ko sa yo pag dumating, and if you still don't want to get back to audio ewan ko lang... :D

pero kung ayaw mo talaga, then pamana mo na lang sakin plaka mo... :D

talaga ha! har! har! har!

[timber715]

finger joints are easier to do on the TS, cleaner too since the blade cuts axially which makes it better. router on the otherhand will be more prone to tear-out since the bit moves radially. both needs a reliable jig to make accurate joints...

[JayL]

finger joints are easier to do on the TS, cleaner too since the blade cuts axially which makes it better. router on the otherhand will be more prone to tear-out since the bit moves radially. both needs a reliable jig to make accurate joints...

Bosch 4100 w/ Freud dado blade na. Go Go Go.

Kelan kaya ako makakabili ng Dado Blade? Lagi na lang postpone. Last time nag sale less that $97 na lang..

[jarod]

Bosch 4100 w/ Freud dado blade na. Go Go Go.

Kelan kaya ako makakabili ng Dado Blade? Lagi na lang postpone. Last time nag sale less that $97 na lang..

The Freud SD208 8-Inch Professional Dado (http://www.amazon.com/Freud-SD208-8-Inch-Professional-Dado/dp/B0000223O9) is now just$94.99 plus $1.00 shipping :D

[jarod]

Some questions on 1/4" shank router bits:
- is it mostly available locally?
- is it cheaper than the 1/2" or the price is almost the same?
- what brands are usually available?
- are there local shops aside from Binondo and mall hardwares that are good sources of router bits?

[beebeenator]

check Hans Tools in Shang Mall , Jarod.

They have ez-cut router bits. they seem to be pretty well made. Lots of 1/2 and 1/4 " shanks

PAnda also sells Ez-Cuts i believe

[jarod]

check Hans Tools in Shang Mall , Jarod.

They have ez-cut router bits. they seem to be pretty well made. Lots of 1/2 and 1/4 " shanks

PAnda also sells Ez-Cuts i believe
Thanks Ben, You're one of the resources that I'm expecting to reply as I know that you have a GMR as well. Thanks again!

[timber715]

check Hans Tools in Shang Mall , Jarod.

They have ez-cut router bits. they seem to be pretty well made. Lots of 1/2 and 1/4 " shanks

PAnda also sells Ez-Cuts i believe
since you have access to Panda, best check them there since Hans tools get them from panda as well. well they do have to mark up the price...
1/4" shank router bits are generally cheaper than the 1/2" shank ones. but the 1/2" shanks offer better stability and less vibration and little to no chattering which 1/4" shank is prone to...

[timber715]

anything new on the wishlist???

[moji]

Just saw Ultimax's album...wow...master craftsman talaga. Good for you to have time to build all those in 2 years! galing!

[moji]

anything new on the wishlist???

Magbubukas ka na ba ng isang box uli? :p

[JayL]

@Jarod

I remember you did a good post on how to attach pictures in the forum. I can't seem to find it. Do you still happen to know which thread you placed it. Some members are asking how to include photos on their post.

Thanks so much.

Jay

[jarod]

Jay, I'll be creating a thread on this at the "Gazebo" module...tagal ko nang utang to kay timber :p

Done... an instruction on how to post pictures (http://www.pinoyhandyman.com/showthread.php?p=13667#post13667) in PinoyHandyMan.

[JayL]

Bros please don't forget to post pics of new tools and if possible some reviews. Tools which are already checked and certified by owning members are better bets for us wanting to purchase.

Looks like most of us like tools and pics as well. :)

[JayL]

2:45 AM na naka login pa kayong dalawa ...... tool hunting ba yan?

[timber715]

2:45 AM na naka login pa kayong dalawa ...... tool hunting ba yan?
watching a fantastic concert... David Foster and Friends... HitMan ;)

[ryobi]

well well i drop by at manila to get my precious new toys hehehe and we've discuss so many things with doc.v but when I'm going home grabe ang traffic sa x-press wooohooo but anyway i enjoy a lot .....

sir timb/ doc v.
eto yung tool box ko matagal ng nakatago

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/auto%20darkening%20helmet/000_0524.jpg

ang laman ay
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/auto%20darkening%20helmet/000_0525.jpg

the 2 small micrometer is new others ay medyo rusted na hmmmm magandang gamitin ito sa fine tune sa woodworks hehehe
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/auto%20darkening%20helmet/000_0529.jpg

pahinga muna ako ang bigat pala nung box....:cool:

[timber715]

nakuha na yung Triton, kaya lang busy sa bagong oto itong mamang ito... congrats Ryobi... GSR nga ba? ;)

[violaine]

dinig ko gls:cool:

[ryobi]

that 's right doc......GLS
here some initial picture
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/triton/Picture001.jpg

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/triton/Picture002.jpg

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/triton/Picture003.jpg

o diba okey ba? hehehe poor na ako ngayon whaaaaa!!!!!

[timber715]

so what tool are you looking at now Moji?
contemplating on the Makita biscuit joiner... hmmmm

[violaine]

@ryobi,

wow..congrats on your new toy!

tara tulungan na kita tanggalin back seats...tapos dalin natin sa taytay..

madami second hand lumber dun!

ahehe!

[moji]

Binyagan na yang GLS na yan at kargahan ng kahoy at bakal!

@timb,

Hindi ko alam kung may pang gastos ako bago mag deadline sa box e..poor pa kasi..

[JayL]

Congrats bro on the new ride .... :)

[timber715]

bukas na makukuha ni ryobi ang ride nya... :D
iroroad test daw nya papuntang court para malayo-layo ang viahe :D

[ossie]

wow ang sarap naman ng bagong toy na yan hehehe

[jonathanscruz68]

good choice brod, good for carrying lumbers, plywood, as well as metals...4x4 na pang harabas kung baga.

hindi lang pang pamilya pang pinoyhandyman DIY'ers pa.:cool:

outing na!!!

[ryobi]

uy!!! ung si mamang naka blue oh bosh pa ata ang t shirt nag mukhang tao na :eek: hehehe
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/Picture035.jpg
bagong bago..
http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/Picture034.jpg

http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab296/rtirona/Picture041.jpg

[JayL]

Ganda bro. O paano yan tamang automotive muna tayo .... hehehhehe :)

[timber715]

picnic time sabay wood hunting... congrats brader, you deserve it. keep safe...

[john-jo]

Wow !!
Really loaded under the hood!
Congrats Bro !

[JayL]

Bros,

What kind of Synthetic Grease have you seen on the hardware malls?

I'm looking for something like this.

http://www.amazon.com/SEPTLS69241160-Super-Lube-Grease-Lubricants/dp/B0037QG4BS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1296194727&sr=8-4

Super Lube . I hope it's available locally.

Thanks

[timber715]

Meron yan Jay, try True Value...

[JayL]

Meron yan Jay, try True Value...

Yes I will check there. Super Lube website list True Value as a distributor.

Thanks

[beedigo]

Sir Jay, may nakita po ako nagbebenta Superlube online d2;

http://www.**************/index.php/view+classifieds/id/2593820/SUPERLUBE+GREASE%2C+AMERICAN+GREASE%2C+PLEASE+CALL +%40+%2B63+932.+1444637+ALSO+SELLING+AP+OIL%2C+ALP HA+PACIFIC+PETROLUEM%2CKAL%2CSUPER+LUBE+LUBRICANTS %2CKAL%26C%2CRHODIA%2CSLICE%2CNPC%2CNIPPON+KOYU+GR EASE?referralKeywords=drill+press

[JayL]

Sir Jay, may nakita po ako nagbebenta Superlube online d2;

http://www.**************/index.php/view+classifieds/id/2593820/SUPERLUBE+GREASE%2C+AMERICAN+GREASE%2C+PLEASE+CALL +%40+%2B63+932.+1444637+ALSO+SELLING+AP+OIL%2C+ALP HA+PACIFIC+PETROLUEM%2CKAL%2CSUPER+LUBE+LUBRICANTS %2CKAL%26C%2CRHODIA%2CSLICE%2CNPC%2CNIPPON+KOYU+GR EASE?referralKeywords=drill+press

Thanks for the info bro. I'll check him out if I can't get it at True Value.

Super Lube is good to lubricate Ratchets too. It is what Snap On uses.

[timber715]

Hey Jay, ang hirap din talaga ng maraming catalogs... marami akong gusto... :D

[JayL]

Hey Jay, ang hirap din talaga ng maraming catalogs... marami akong gusto... :D

What catalogs? Yun mga freebies .... hahahaha sinabi mo pa. Mas maganda talaga sa catalogs kesa sa site.

[timber715]

grabe nga, ubos na pera ko, binabasa ko pa lang :D

[ossie]

@doc v,
musta na ba? oks na ang operation?

[violaine]

had consult the other day...we postponed the operation sched indefinitely as i am having no symptoms for the past days or so...maybe summer or never.God only knows.

anyway who wants to be operated, major or minor!

lets just cross our fingers that that something growing inside me will shrink eventually. evidently, no progress in size since december of last year.

thanks ossie.

love your posts on welding.

welding master ka na talaga!

i am still busy at work eh.no time for anything of interest...ie. woodwork and welding.

[timber715]

Doc, you joining saturday? handplane tuning...

[JayL]

@ Doc V

That's great news!!! We pray it gets better and better.

[JayL]

Can we analyze how this works.

http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/games/magic-gopher-central.swf

[owyn]

Went to this year's Philippine international guitar festival and saw some familiar faces and made a few friends and acquaintances. Those Thai guys are laid back btw. There's this 18 year old guitarist who made it to the last round of competition and he was very laissez-faire about it- we spent more time drinking at Dencio's than at the hall in the last day :confused: (considering a lot of really good guitarists didn't make it, there's also this Indonesian who both of my guitarist friends admire- he made it through but made the mistake of drinking the local tap water and got sick lol.)

Talked a lot with this full time builder http://www.chantaguitar.blogspot.com/ who brought his 23rd guitar. http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0622.jpg As they say, "life happens/ happened" for me and i barely could spend time in my shop. *sigh* he's living my dream ^_^.

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0626.jpg
Here's a Spanish Ramirez, it's made in 1952, and the finish ( lacquer? i forgot, definitely not shellac) has checkered. It's the guitar to have especially when Segovia was alive.

[owyn]

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0628.jpg
Guitarist Tomonori Arai playing a Japanese Asturias. I couldn't even comprehend the price, but the miters sure are close to perfect, and the finish is impeccable.
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0621.jpg

I was in love with the comfort model. A smaller shaped, shorter scale model. Looks rather adolescent/proportional isn't it? Notice the slight difference in the hue of the left and right side of the soundboard- it's bookmatched (came from same piece however there is some grain runout.) http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0617.jpg

costs an arm, a leg, and a kidney unfortunately.
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0616.jpg

[owyn]

Lowest priced cedar topped model still cost 6 figures =/.
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0625.jpg


Friendly reminder to those who audition the guitars. The french polish (shellac) reacts to sweat http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0624.jpg

First prize of the competition is a Yuichi Imai with a carbon fiber case. I was taken aback by the satin looking french polish- so thin it isn't enough to completely smooth out the surface. So the top is free to vibrate anyway. http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0627.jpg

[ossie]

get well soon doc! sana magtuloy tuloy na...

para chow ulit tayo ng chow ni ryobi hahaha :D

[jarod]

Can we analyze how this works.

http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/games/magic-gopher-central.swf

NOTE: Do not read the text below not until you visit the link! ;)

This is easy but deceiving as well.

The pattern of questions has a certain logic that would only result to a set of possible answers (in this case, multiples of 9). This set of numbers will have the same symbol next to it so for any combination that you try it knows just the exact symbol for you. Actually, it does not know the specific answer but it already know that your answer will always be on the multiples of 9.

So why do you get different symbols? Easy, for every round it just changes all the symbols for all the multiples of 9 and some random number just for diversion.

Try looking all the values of 9 multiples on the symbol chart and you would understand all the deception :D

[violaine]

@ossie & jayL,

thanks mga bro...there is nothing i can do now except pray for the best...i will be happy if the size of the tumor will stay the same or at least shrink eventually...it is benign naman po and i believe i can still have another 40 years...cheers!

@owyn,

sana isinama mo ako...

i only have in my possession a 1978 Morris acoustic and nothing more.

what tools do you need ba to be a luthier as a minimum?

natuklasan ko na kasi formula ng master ng cremona.

:cool:

[violaine]

NOTE: Do not read the text below not until you visit the link! ;)

This is easy but deceiving as well.

The pattern of questions has a certain logic that would only result to a set of possible answers (in this case, multiples of 9). This set of numbers will have the same symbol next to it so for any combination that you try it knows just the exact symbol for you. Actually, it does not know the specific answer but it already know that your answer will always be on the multiples of 9.

So why do you get different symbols? Easy, for every round it just changes all the symbols for all the multiples of 9 and some random number just for diversion.

Try looking all the values of 9 multiples on the symbol chart and you would understand all the deception :D


kaya ako hindi nag engineering eh..sasablay ako tyak!

i am always at a lost with numbers.

huhu

[jarod]

Nice guitars owyn! Next time, bring a guitar and play some for us! :)

[jarod]

Hehe, natsambahan ko lang Doc :D

[chisel]

@ Owyn

Never thought that you'd played guitar. Jamming tayo. I used to have a band back on my college days but that was the good old days never touch a single string ever since.

@ Doc V ano nang yari sayo pagaling ka bro. Tams nako mag basa kaya di na updated.

[violaine]

@ Doc V ano nang yari sayo pagaling ka bro. Tams nako mag basa kaya di na updated.

eh last year pako pinepeste ng sakit ko..dont worry bro..ill be ok. thanks.

a lot less pain nako naman na ako nowadays.

kaya value your health.

when you arent sure of anything related to health stuff, just pm me.

anytime.

[owyn]

Heya everyone =). 'Cencia na, medyo AWOL na nga ako dito. I don't have much time after work for the workshop, and often i'm tired already so i don't accomplish much. Fortunate are those who can join the midnight club... I see ossie has got the welding skill down.

@violane
I guess it can be done with pure hand tools (except for some drilling.) But realistically, i sure want to have 7 routers, 2 bandsaws among LOTS of jigs and specialized hand tools! There's this guy in a forum who sig goes something like: "anyone who makes a guitar under 5,000 dollars is a hero!" A set of East Indian Rosewood cost me 4.5K and spruce cost me 1.5-2K for AA and AAA grade... and time... I want an extra 36 hours each day please =/.

I've lent tools to someone before and the resulting guitar (his 3rd) was a bit blah... if the fret spacing deviates by .2mm the intonation will obviously be off.

I wasn't sure I'd pass by festival but glad i did. Bumped into someone i made a bone nut for his guitar years back and that was the start. Currently i don't have a guitar =), voluntarily gave mine to an italian nun who was nice enough to give me the DP and lathe (restoration still pending.)

My motto these days is... kung may sisimulan, may matatapos ^_^.

[violaine]

if the fret spacing deviates by .2mm the intonation will obviously be off.

enough said...guitar making now more intimidating.:eek:

[moji]

thanks mga bro...there is nothing i can do now except pray for the best...i will be happy if the size of the tumor will stay the same or at least shrink eventually...it is benign naman po and i believe i can still have another 40 years...cheers!

Good to know that the tumor is benign..hopefully tuloy tuloy na paggaling mo doc ;)

[jonathanscruz68]

doc v,
better left untouch since it is benign doc v, considering the place where it is located, eb's pa rin tayo after 40 years ;) !!!

chisel,
magbuo na ba tayo ng banda?:cool:

[timber715]

Doc, Jonathan,
sasama ba kayo sa sabado? Si Ben kaya?

[owyn]

@doc v.
Workign with hand tools doesn't mean working free-hand right? Sounds intimidating but it must be in the jig. And making sure the errors don't accumulate, each cut registers to one point etc. Commercially available jigs - essentially a well made miter box- are .02mm IIRC ( accurate 1/10th of allowed variance)from the ideal. One could use it eyes closed and be good =).

Jig for the rosette, jig for the binding, for side bending, and so on...

back to real life... i got to sleep, work tomorrow =).

Uhm... the gf's on her junior internship next school year, so siguradong mas may free time nako hah! ^_^

@Moj.
punta ka sa sunday? I'll try and will bring the oiler if i can make it.

[jonathanscruz68]

Doc, Jonathan,
sasama ba kayo sa sabado? Si Ben kaya?

hindi ako sure, kaya hind ako nagsasign- in, i really love to join since i want to level-up my skills on handplaning, kaso may appointment ako this sat...

[timber715]

no worries Jon...

those who want to make a guitar, here (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TheWoodWhisperer#p/u/34/1QOFKozWBjo) is a fun made video on how to make one...

[moji]

@Moj.
punta ka sa sunday? I'll try and will bring the oiler if i can make it.

If its saturday you mean then yes i will go (hopefully the sched doesnt change though). Punta ka na din!

[ossie]

hehehe sleep na daw, pero naka online pa :D ang haba ba ng backread mo owyn? hehehe


back to real life... i got to sleep, work tomorrow =).

[timber715]

I think I need to upgrade my scrollsaw, thinking of this one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVbUe1MNG4E&feature=related).. what you think? :rolleyes:

[violaine]

I think I need to upgrade my scrollsaw, thinking of this one... what you think?

naku! ayos to ah!

@timber,

whats your opinion letting the rear of the scrollsaw to sit in an angle?

yes better view of the blade while cutting but what about the motor/vibration as i am going in that direction.

thanks

[violaine]

@timber,

next time na lang ako punta sa handplane tuning workshop...need to finish pending jobs at the woodshop...i.e. painting.

i made the support for the rear outfeed table and satisfied..no wide angle lens at the moment to take photos of the entire back of the 4100 at such a close distance but perhaps soon.

goodluck to you guys. be safe as you will all be working with sharps.

[timber715]

no worries Doc, I know you are very busy...
I might make an outfeed too soon, looking forward to your build. as for the scrollsaw, the back you mean is higher a bit? it should work fine, made my first ss table that way, the lid/top that covers the cabinet rocks forward and back to give me that angle. I made a second one (which I now use which is flat since dust do get in my stuff and it is low enough to be comfortable with full view of the cut.
cheers

[ryobi]

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/davidgn/davidgn1012/davidgn101200021/8346490-happy-new-year-of-the-rabbit-2011-chinese-gold-coin-illustration-red-background.jpg

Kung hei fat choi :D

[JayL]

I'm slowly building up precision whacking capabilities. Looking for a 20ish oz dead blow hammer now. Maybe you guys can help me decide. These are the choices.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002M8UH2O/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3NUNNXXHUJDMF

or

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D2S948/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Moji what do you think too about the above?

[timber715]

I like the PB swiss better Jay, but that's just me...

funny if you look behind, we use to talk buying tools in hundreds of pesos, now thousands na... I reckon once you get exposed to good tools that are of very good quality, price becomes trivial. unless of course if price is too much :D
really, the buying power of this group is not to be belittled especially looking for quality...

[JayL]

I like the PB swiss better Jay, but that's just me...

funny if you look behind, we use to talk buying tools in hundreds of pesos, now thousands na... I reckon once you get exposed to good tools that are of very good quality, price becomes trivial. unless of course if price is too much :D
really, the buying power of this group is not to be belittled especially looking for quality...

Yes you are right and it will still grow. The value of good quality tools supersedes the initial cost in the long run. The way I look at it It's really a balancing act between cost and quality. Lot's of things to consider before being able to get the best bang for the buck. Not necessarily the cheapest nor the most expensive. That's why we take time to study first which tools to buy with our hard earned money.

After studying the dead blow design of the hammers it seems that PB Swiss uses washers while Wiha uses shot steel balls. I was leaning on the PB Swiss until I run into information that their DB hammers do have some small rebounds depending on the material it pounds. Wiha design is 100% deadblow so I chose it because it is what I need ( engine overhaul work ). If I will need small rebounds then maybe next time I'll go get a PB Swiss too.

Wiha

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/Inside-Hammer-px150.jpg

PB Swiss

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/a1565.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Wiha-80230-Hammer-Cushioned-Handle/dp/B002M8UH2O/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_1

Cheaper too :eek: Made in Germany.

[timber715]

well with that information, I would choose the same. It really pays when homework is done correctly...

[mrjasonbourne]

Hi Doc V!
Thank God your health is ok.
I believe the body can heal itself given the right care and right attitude. Which is a positive attitude.

[violaine]

@jason,

i really cannot say i am 100 percent ok but keeping the faith makes me feel alive all the time.

cheers!

you take care bro.

[moji]

I'm slowly building up precision whacking capabilities. Looking for a 20ish oz dead blow hammer now. Maybe you guys can help me decide. These are the choices.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002M8UH2O/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3NUNNXXHUJDMF

or

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001D2S948/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Moji what do you think too about the above?

I did not see this topic earlier..i see you have made your decision already, in terms of design the PB Swiss looks nice but i guess the Wiha is really a dead blow hammer..good choices! I bet when your box arrives you will be one happy guy!

[timber715]

UFC time na...........

[mrjasonbourne]

Would have enjoyed playing with these. It is true that the finish affects the sound because it dampens the vibration of the wood. We need to go there as a group. Dami pala guitar players dito :cool:

Lowest priced cedar topped model still cost 6 figures =/.
http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0625.jpg


Friendly reminder to those who audition the guitars. The french polish (shellac) reacts to sweat http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0624.jpg

First prize of the competition is a Yuichi Imai with a carbon fiber case. I was taken aback by the satin looking french polish- so thin it isn't enough to completely smooth out the surface. So the top is free to vibrate anyway. http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss1/owyn_band_so_long/Image0627.jpg

[mrjasonbourne]

no worries Jon...

those who want to make a guitar, here (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TheWoodWhisperer#p/u/34/1QOFKozWBjo) is a fun made video on how to make one...

As Doc V said. It's intimidating:) It's possible that what you built cannot be tuned:eek:

I just play. The most WW related thing I can do with my guitars is to sand down the saddle to adjust the string action.

My guitars. Yamaha, Valencia, Craftman
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3992/img2581h.jpg

Will probably let go of the Valencia, just pm me WW guitarheads;)

[jarod]

Wow! I just play too...during highschool...XX year ago :p

[ossie]

play what? :D

@doc,
hindi nililinaw o? hehe


Wow! I just play too...during highschool...XX year ago :p

[JayL]

As Doc V said. It's intimidating It's possible that what you built cannot be tuned

I just play. The most WW related thing I can do with my guitars is to sand down the saddle to adjust the string action.

My guitars. Yamaha, Valencia, Craftman


Will probably let go of the Valencia, just pm me WW guitarheads;)

A guitar that can't be tuned? :(

Maybe these will be good to test it.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/IMGP1016.jpg

Except for 1 or maybe 2 I sold the tuners already in favor of tools. :)

[mrjasonbourne]

Jay, may secret stash ka ng mga tuners ha. Love that classic Boss tuner and also the Sabine.
These tuners actually reveal how badly spaced the frets are (intonation). With the guitars I mentioned...The open strings will be tuned using tuners but when you start pressing the frets specially the 5th or 12th fret, what is supposed to be an E or A note is a few cents off. Then it becomes unplayable:eek: Gawa uli:confused:

Never tried that fender tuner yet...Maybe next EB natin papakita mo at jamming na with jarod:cool: I use a computer and an Eno clip on tuner.

[JayL]

Jay, may secret stash ka ng mga tuners ha. Love that classic Boss tuner and also the Sabine.
These tuners actually reveal how badly spaced the frets are (intonation). With the guitars I mentioned...The open strings will be tuned using tuners but when you start pressing the frets specially the 5th or 12th fret, what is supposed to be an E or A note is a few cents off. Then it becomes unplayable:eek: Gawa uli:confused:

Never tried that fender tuner yet...Maybe next EB natin papakita mo at jamming na with jarod:cool: I use a computer and an Eno clip on tuner.

Ok will bring the Fender on the next EB and probably a guitar.

The smallest one is a Sabine also. It sticks by itself to the guitar body ( probably just near/ above the neck ) so you can easily see the lights.

[mrjasonbourne]

That would be cool Admin Jay!

[bigfoot2]

I was at Mayon earlier today, went to buy a 1/4" collet for my Makita 3620. I realized they gave me a 6mm, so I went back later in the afternoon to exchange it.
The guy at the counter claimed that 6mm and 1/4" is the same, when I showed him an EZ cut bit with 1/4" shaft that wouldn't fit in the 6mm collect, he said that my bit must be 5/16" and kept insisting that 6mm and 1/4" is the same. He finally volunteered to get me a Makita 1/4" bit so I can see for myself. That's when he started scratching his head and figuring out his inventory list. Finally convinced, he got me a 1/4" collet. He was trying to get the exchange appove by the boss when it hit a snag, the boss was insisting that they are the same thing also. They finally checked the inventory I guess and got convinced themselves.

He kept insisting that they only sell routers with 1/4" and 1/2" collets.

[jarod]

^I do get to meet sellers with those attitude of "we know it better than you do". It's either their lazy to exchange it, worried that the boss might find out the blooper they made, too proud to admit their mistake or intended to give out sleeping items just to be converted into cash.

Glad to hear it ended well.

[bigfoot2]

He was willing to refund my money right from the start. He says its ok since I don't need the item. Maybe hey rarely encounter the 6mm bit?

[timber715]

jun, was it David? or where was the Mayon guy seated?

[bigfoot2]

Slim guy, seating nearest the entrance to the left.

[violaine]

i think i saw a new title...woodworking maniac!

it just fits the man!

aproved!

[timber715]

Slim guy, seating nearest the entrance to the left.
I hope it wasn't the slim OLD man, that guy is nasty... I believe, he is the only slim guy there...
that is a tip for people going to Mayon. Never ask the Old guy for anything... look for any other to inquire to.

[bigfoot2]

the old man is a chinese guy I think. Its a young man, facing the street, filipino guy.

[timber715]

ah, the one with the heavy bisaya accent, hehehe. he does seem to complain before he acts. the better person to talk to is the next guy that faces the street. he is Koko... :D

[bigfoot2]

yeah, I think he's the one. Sometimes speaking gibberish.

[timber715]

Just though I'd post this for those interested in furniture designs and trends... hope to see you there.
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab219/timber3715/furnitureshow.png

[beebeenator]

i guess ill just post it here

ill be gone for a week ~~~~~~ and be back after :)

[timber715]

i guess ill just post it here

ill be gone for a week ~~~~~~ and be back after :)
Kailan lipad mo brader?

[beebeenator]

A few minutes from now, kaso Hindi pa to yung hong kong. Hopefully my Inet sa destination

[owyn]

I'm stumped. Ok, small detail but really, what part of the bracket do you mount into the concrete wall- the long or stubby side? Ain't the longer one stronger? However it'll show more and look obstrusive.

Hula nyo? ;)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8584/image0723.jpg

Gotta love hafele, the load rating is printed in the sticker.

[moji]

I usually put the short side to the wall..but for really heavy load you might want to switch it.

[jarod]

Generally the longer(thicker) one supports whole width of the shelf for its load as the short side is enough to hold itself of the wall.

Similar to how these are designed...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-Dkg-MG9qv7cdE2M8efhmcFnlNg3Hov89QHxFur4TXCY60SAD

[timber715]

Moji, I don't know if this is good news or bad :p, but Lee Valley is having a free shipping spree till March 28... look... (http://www.leevalley.com/US/home/Announcement.aspx)

[moji]

hahaha that is very bad....resist temptation! :p

[timber715]

Thanks Moji, for coming over to help kanina when the fan belt broke...

[moji]

No prob..not much help though..my automotive tools are paltry..:p

[beebeenator]

WAHHHH i havent been around this forum for.... two weeks na ata or three???

My addiction to watches bit me real bad. Watches are my first love, second aquariums and third woodworking....

I am guilty of spending more time in the other forum :(:(:(

and one thing led to another... i am now a dealer of an aftermarket watch band/strap/bracelet brand. first batch of shipment coming april 2nd... lalalala now i am doing reselling business.. patay na.

so many things can happen in a few weeks.

So Moji... akala ko nahugot kita papuntang darkside? :P

[moji]

Hehe i check the site once in a while..the thing is with watches, i cant afford most of what i want so there is some sort of control :p

Do you have a link of the straps you sell?

[beebeenator]

Yup i do

www.tungchoywatch.com

or search taikonaut strap. They have 3 websites. The third one is www.strapcode.com for some reason the straps in that site are more expensive.

I will be making a multiply site. benwatchandwoodworks.multiply.com

it just got up but still empty. I will be opening up and probably me making some mods of my own. For sale.

=)

[JayL]

Here are a few pics for those that were able to ride on the amazon files frenzy.

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/DSCN3026.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/DSCN3028.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/DSCN3030.jpg

[JayL]

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/9pcmaintenance.jpg

http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t347/jzltraco/Pinoy%20Handyman/USAFiles.jpg

[timber715]

nice Jay, already in Ohio?

[JayL]

nice Jay, already in Ohio?

Did you get yours already. The Ergo handles that I ordered are in Illinois already. The rest are shipping soon.

The pictures I posted were borrowed from GJ. They inform that the handles on the ergo sets are removable too.

[JayL]

Anybody here tried or use E-Cigarettes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pV8j81qX4U

http://www.**************/index.php/classifieds+directory/q/e+cigarrettes

[timber715]

I just got approval for a Rikon bandsaw, best part is my mil will pay for it first :D

[timber715]

thanks Jarod for the shipping dimensions of the Rikon 10-325 bandsaw. for those interested its 55" x 19" x 24" and shipping weight is 270lbs...

[JayL]

thanks Jarod for the shipping dimensions of the Rikon 10-325 bandsaw. for those interested its 55" x 19" x 24" and shipping weight is 270lbs...

It seems not so very heavy. Irregular sized cargo and probably is crated.

[jarod]

Question though, is the Grizzly G0555 not a good alternative? I asked because this two are the most reviewed head to head and it's way cheaper as well.

[timber715]

Question though, is the Grizzly G0555 not a good alternative? I asked because this two are the most reviewed head to head and it's way cheaper as well.
I believe Guad ordered one, it should be around or maybe about to arrive. Now while the Rikon cost a bit more than the Griz, it comes without the need of a riser block (unlike the griz). feature per feature the Rikon is ahead and for the Griz to be at par, you would have spent a bit more than the Rikon.

[JayL]

I believe Guad ordered one, it should be around or maybe about to arrive. Now while the Rikon cost a bit more than the Griz, it comes without the need of a riser block (unlike the griz). feature per feature the Rikon is ahead and for the Griz to be at par, you would have spent a bit more than the Rikon.

I might be mistaken but the price of the Rikon seems double that of the Griz so there must be something there for the Rkon.

None the less from the pic the Griz looks to be a well built band saw too.

[timber715]

I might be mistaken but the price of the Rikon seems double that of the Griz so there must be something there for the Rkon.

None the less from the pic the Griz looks to be a well built band saw too.
the GO555 uses aluminum wheels and needs a riser block among others just to be close to the Rikon. Even then the depth of cut is still slightly lower than the Rikon. Like I said, buying the Grizzly GO555 would be more expensive than the Rikon when they get to the same level.
Another choice would be the GO555X for a better starting point. even then the Rikon would end having better value... IMO

[owyn]

^So you already pulled the trigger on that one? Uy, ayos to =).

[timber715]

^So you already pulled the trigger on that one? Uy, ayos to =).
I did at Highland Hardware, unfortunately the shipping is too much that the cost exceeds Amazon price. Will order tonight together with the last orders for online 5 before I close the thread.

[moji]

Why did you not get it in amazon instead?

[timber715]

Why did you not get it in amazon instead?
bec highland had it for 799 pending shipping which will be emailed after the order. You can cancel or continue the transaction after the email. I cancelled since shipping costs USD250. will end up costing a tad more. and Amazon has been good to me when it comes to support.

[guad]

I believe Guad ordered one, it should be around or maybe about to arrive.

G0555P arrived last year, $398 + 74. Long overdue for a review, but I've been swamped ... not getting enough quality time on the saw. I put it on casters. One of the six guide bushings (top rear) is defective, does not turn freely. Need to get it replaced. Still have to get good blades. No riser block. I am happy with 6" resaw capacity ... for now.

I hope this report is correct, as I don't want to have to get so many blades:
http://www.mwells.org/woodworking/bandsaw/choosing-bandsaw-blades

[JayL]

G0555P arrived last year, $398 + 74. Long overdue for a review, but I've been swamped ... not getting enough quality time on the saw. I put it on casters. One of the six guide bushings (top rear) is defective, does not turn freely. Need to get it replaced. Still have to get good blades. No riser block. I am happy with 6" resaw capacity ... for now.

I hope this report is correct, as I don't want to have to get so many blades:
http://www.mwells.org/woodworking/bandsaw/choosing-bandsaw-blades

Hi Guad,

How much did you pay for international shipping and approx size of the package.

Man you have lots of goodies. I hope whenever you get chance you post some pics and a bit of feedback for our members.

Thanks a lot.

Jay

[timber715]

started a thread Guad for bandsaws, nice share on the blades. I actually ordered 3 already. timberwolves 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4" ones... oh and I got a carter stabilizer or cutting curves... Carter stabilizer
(http://www.amazon.com/Carter-Band-Blade-Stabilizer-Rikon/dp/B0035YGN8G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1304490879&sr=1-1)

[guad]

OK, noted. Shipping to PH was ~$130, same forwarder as in the forum online orders (I think). Shipping to forwarder was FedEx freight with no liftgate service included or needed by recipient. Box size 44 x 21 x 20, 210 lbs. So it looks like the Rikon is significantly heavier, although the Grizzly is quite heavy as it is. As reported in various installation accounts on the web, at least two people were needed to lift the saw onto its stand.

[bigfoot2]

True Value Sale!

True Value Shangrila Mall- 20% off on all items from 12nn-3pm on May 6,2011

[JayL]

OK, noted. Shipping to PH was ~$130, same forwarder as in the forum online orders (I think). Shipping to forwarder was FedEx freight with no liftgate service included or needed by recipient. Box size 44 x 21 x 20, 210 lbs. So it looks like the Rikon is significantly heavier, although the Grizzly is quite heavy as it is. As reported in various installation accounts on the web, at least two people were needed to lift the saw onto its stand.

Thanks Guad.

I hope to learn some insights about band saws from the forum. Up to now I really have not looked into it yet but probably would do so in the future for metal cutting purposes.

Just a quick question. Are woodworking and metal band saws different from each other or is the same tool but loaded with different blades?

[timber715]

Thanks Guad.

I hope to learn some insights about band saws from the forum. Up to now I really have not looked into it yet but probably would do so in the future for metal cutting purposes.

Just a quick question. Are woodworking and metal band saws different from each other or is the same tool but loaded with different blades?
blade and speed are the main factors that differnciate them Jay, the Rikon I ordered is capable of low speed which can cut non ferrous metals...

[balarila]

thanks Jarod for the shipping dimensions of the Rikon 10-325 bandsaw. for those interested its 55" x 19" x 24" and shipping weight is 270lbs...

Trying to get an estimate for shipping this beast from the forwarder I use. Do you mind clarifying, Timb, the size? Amazon describes it as:

Item Dimensions
Length: 25 inches
Width: 30 inches
Height: 75 inches

Are the dimensions you mentioned the crate/box dimensions? Did it come in a pallet?

Thanks.

BTW, don't get excited. I'm not buying. Just planning we'll ahead.

[owyn]

(Just posting something since it's been a slow posting the past few days.)

This happened a few weeks back, but man did I feel smart then. Not just smarter than a fifth grader- I was more genius than that- I outwitted some rats! (Inspired by a few youtube videos and webpages of course.)

The bucket trap method:
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6512/image0854.jpg
Some peanut butter slathered on the rolling cylinder. Cobbled together with just what i got, but i made sure it rolls so e-a-s-i-l-y. Mechanics of it seen on this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxwCp7Iskvs&feature=related

And for the bigger one, the classic rat trap.
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/214/image0876.jpg
Used some pumpkins seeds as one vid suggested, and 2 free, unbaited ones leading to it to really reel him in, give him the taste for some and make him complacent. (These creatures are amazingly paranoid/wary.) I also bended the trigger catch just a bit to make it more sensitive. The trap was rather undersized for his size, but oh well it still worked.

The guy was freakin smart, i put some sticky paper on the usual route he took, and he never used that exit point again after i laid the trap. Also, i've put some racumin before which i'm sure he ate but he never died from it, though it worked on other ones.

It can't be helped that rats will ocassionally venture to my place in search of food, I'm near a field which i supect is where they nest. By coming to my place they'll be eliminated rather than proliferate. (I now made sure that they don't have access to dog food, my pantry has always been secure, and i make sure the kitchen sink is clean, no leftovers.)

===
Wish i had her setup though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxwCp7Iskvs&feature=related
(I don't enjoy killing- got qualms killing birds - but rats pee everywhere, they are a threat to cleanliness and therefore health. Yiiiiihhh!!!)

[timber715]

I see rats in the court shop too, then a cat came in and I adopted it since he was a champion rat killer... no more rats in the area...:consoling2:

[bigfoot2]

I stay away from Racumin, its overprice piece of junk, the rats seems to only get bigger with it. Try using zinc phospide, I get it from Cartimar, Mapecon or agricultural stores. But nothing beats a hungry cat.

[timber715]

aba nabuhay si Dom, welcome back mudhutdesigns, ano nangyari sayo at nawala ka ng matagal?

[JayL]

Any tips on good newer movies to watch.

Thanks

[bigfoot2]

pulled the plug on Bosch 1617 EVSPK, plus accesories,

[timber715]

pulled the plug on Bosch 1617 EVSPK, plus accesories,
yun ba pinalit mo sa Cambridge P500 :thud: :horse::horse::horse:

[bigfoot2]

abonado pa. Still thinking about the Dared SL-2000, baka bitawan ko din.

[JayL]

pulled the plug on Bosch 1617 EVSPK, plus accesories,

Yehey. Mag kakameron ng barkada ang router ko. Hahahahhaha

Congrats bro. That's a very good router.

[bigfoot2]

I trust your reviews. I like the dual base, and that I can use it handheld in some cases I need a bigger router in freehand.

[jarod]

Any tips on good newer movies to watch.Thanks
Thor, Fast Five and Kung Fu Panda

pulled the plug on Bosch 1617 EVSPK, plus accesories,
Congrats on the router! :)

[bigfoot2]

Loooking for Kamagong?

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/27316

[timber715]

that guy is a moron Jun... :jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop::jawdrop:

[bigfoot2]

Seems the post was deleted.

[JayL]

Thor, Fast Five and Kung Fu Panda


Congrats on the router! :)

Looks like the first 2 not available for DL yet. tks

[timber715]

Seems the post was deleted.
A member (Anji12305) pm'ed the moderator and deleted the thread... thank goodness. Malakas daw sya so Phil. Government kay pwede syang mag benta ng endangered species. Iba talaga patakbo ni Noynoy... :hang::hang::hang::hang:

[bigfoot2]

It's not only Noynoy, historically, its been the way the country has been run.

[timber715]

It's not only Noynoy, historically, its been the way the country has been run.
I agree, but this government not only do the same bad as others, it does little to make it better... puro salita lang sila... :poke: highlight of his administration is the no of girlfriend he is having (finally pinapatulan na sya) :borg1:

[owyn]

PRO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5TpIU30-0
Take note of the separate jointer, planer and bandsaw on the panned shot. Those substantial things look small with the oodles of space he's got. (I'd wager to say that his space is bigger than all the PHM contributor's shop-space combined! May you get good contracts with the industrial setup sir.

I'd gues- timate the planer and jointer's 16". Whatccha guys think?

[JayL]

Any Ateneo brothers here in our forum? Need some advise / help on school admission for foreign student ( Freshman ).

Thank you very much.

Jay