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  • #76
    binistay, yang yung inihiwalay na pinong buhangin sa mga bato.
    Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
    Use the right tool for the right job!

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    • #77
      ang galing! nabigyan ako ng pagasa na magawa yung mouldings ng window at doors ng bahay!

      Thank you mga sir at nainspire ako magaral at makagawa nito balang araw.

      More power po!

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      • #78
        thanks jepz, you are very welcome to post your WIP's on this thread.
        Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
        Use the right tool for the right job!

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        • #79
          Der Ossie,
          I found your tutorial some time ago and have read through it multiple times - thank you for your work and for sharing the process with us all - it is the only tutorial I have been able to find on the internet! And what amazing mouldings you have been able to make - I am very very impressed!

          I wanted to try myself to make some mouldings, but I have some problems, so I joined this forum in the hope that you would be willing to answer some questions.

          1: I am just using one template (the finishing template) for My mouldings. When I try to pass over the cement with the template it either drags apart or if I make it more wet and soft it collapses and I cannot build a tall moulding. What is your sand / cement ratio for the mix?

          2: Do you need to let the bottom layer dry before you do the top layers with pure cement?

          I hope you have time for answering - thank you again for your tutorial!

          Best wishes,

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          • #80
            hi Kab, thanks for the kind words.

            Please see below answer to your question.

            1. First, make sure that there still a space for the pure cement otherwise it will drag some of the cement when doing finishing touches. Your pure cement when finishing should be at around 2-3 mm thick, the thinner the better as it will crack in the long run due to hot weather.

            The cement should be firm. If its soft, just add pure powder cement to make the cement firm. My sand cement ratio is somewhat 1 (cement) : 2 (sand).

            2. Don't let the bottom dry before doing the finishing touches - the thin finishing layer will crack as experienced.

            Also, its better to cut the finished moulding the next day, easy to cut and not that dusty. Wet your finished mouldings everyday with water, then the day after the installation.

            Good luck, hoping to post your finished mouldings on this forum.

            HTH.
            Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
            Use the right tool for the right job!

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            • #81
              Dear Ossie,
              Thank you very much for your detailed answer!

              I tried today to make the bottom layer with a mix of 1 cement to 2 parts sand. I had a hard time finding the right mixture and I think it got a little too dry because it started to drag apart when I pulled the template over it. After that I continued with the top layer of pure cement mix, but I was unable to get a nice finish. Also the tallest part of the moulding did not stand, it just collapsed.

              Do you think that some of the problems comes from my moulding template being too thin in the part where it is tallest and therefore the moulding have a hard time trying not to collapse?

              Any tips are very appreciated!


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              • #82
                hi Kab,
                Looks good, you just have to put dry powder cement on the tallest part and then put another cement/sand mixture on it. If its too dry, a spray bottle with water will help you to make it smooth.

                In finishing touches, spread a dry powder cement, then spray it with water then glide. Do some experiment to get the right surface finish.

                No problem with your template as long as its not wobbling during gliding. You can also use a acrylic plastic but the aluminum plate is the best one.

                You are almost there, what you are experiencing is also what I experienced before.

                Have a patience, you will be more happy and proud of yourself once you'are done with your cement moulding.

                Keep on posting...


                Also, you may want to post in Member Introductions so we can better know you, you never know - maybe there's also a member near to you place that can help you or might want to join you on this project.

                Link:
                http://pinoyhandyman.com/forum/outsi...-introductions
                Let's introduce ourselves, get to know each other and establish networks...
                Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
                Use the right tool for the right job!

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                • #83
                  Dear Ossie,
                  Thank you again for your answer!

                  I followed your advice and put some dry cement powder on the back of the moulding, and you were right, it helped me to make it not collapse. Success! I had to put on powder several times and then add more cement mixture to build it up .

                  When I had it built up I mixed some pure cement for the surface finish. I added a layer, glided, then put some dry cement powder, then sprayed it a little, then glided. After that I added some more water to the cement to make it thinner and more floating and then put on another layer and repeated the procedure.

                  I got a much better finish, but I was not able to make it perfectly smooth like yours. Then I tried to spray a little more water on it, but it just made some of the smaller profiles float out and disappear.

                  So I still do have some problems with the finish. Could it be my cement that is too full of lumps?
                  EDIT: you can see a good res image of the finish here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oa00v3hwzi...14037.jpg?dl=0

                  Thank you for your time, Ossie!

                  By the way - I am from Denmark, so I do not think anybody on the forum would be near me to help me out :-P
                  Last edited by Kab; 06-22-2017, 06:40 PM.

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                  • #84
                    hi Kab,
                    You are right, its because of the cement lump or the cement is old and exposed to air for a long time. You need to filter it so you will get a fine cement which is good for finishing touches. When you buy a new bag of cement, do not expose it to air, put it to air tight storage.

                    You are almost there, just put a cement powder then spray with water. Your cement should be similar to this. It's somewhere in the middle of Condensed Milk and Evaporated Milk type of mixture.



                    Then cement powder, water - until you get the nice finish.

                    Keep on posting please.
                    Last edited by ossie; Yesterday, 06:31 AM.
                    Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
                    Use the right tool for the right job!

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                    • #85
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