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    Good day to all woodworkers here at PHM.

    I'm zero knowledge in woodworking. Just a month ago, when I started liking it. I downloaded several woodworking videos, pdf files, and now I registered here to get know-how/insights in this field. Now I decided woodworking as my hobby (very expensive hobby?) . I started acquiring some basic hand tools, also consider power tools like circular saw (but no budget yet). I have several projects in mind like cabinetry, sofa, bed, shelves. But right now, my priority is making a workbench. Because it will be difficult for me to make those projects without a table to hold off.

    But here's the problem: I don't have a big space for a workshop. (attached pic is the dimension of my available space). On the left-most part is where we use to wash clothes, so on the right part is my available space with less that 24" of open space on the front when I put 20" width of table top.


    Can you give me some advice, if I need to continue making a workbench (20'x60x30') or should I forget my hobby and think of something else.

    Actually, I made my first wood craft out of scrap, very simple kindergarten's wood craft, a shoes/slippers shelf..but because I don't have workbench, it took me awhile completing it. I will post the pic here when I got home...I felt motivated when I finished it and how my craft really make those slippers organized and keep it from slipper-robbing dog.

    Appreciate any positive or constructive comments..

  • #2
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    argus, I started ww in our laundry area in a condo with space that is very limited.

    I would suggest you introduce yourself so we can know you better first though. I prefer helping the people I know more than the people I don't... its just me

    click my signature and it will take you there........

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    • #3
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      Apologies Sir Timber.

      My real name is Jason. I use Argus as screen name, because Argus (son of Arestor), builder of the ship Argo in the tale of the Argonauts where Jason (same name with me) used that ship to look for the Golden Fleece. (nice Greek mythology story )

      I live now in an apartment in Las Pinas, near Zapote with my SWMBO almost a year. But before I lived in Taytay, Rizal. I'm 27 years old and work as computer/technical support in Makati. Just a month ago got interest in ww due to the urge feeling to make our apartment organized. I used to DIY repair our old apartment. There are so many things I need to do just to make things organize.

      (a little of my childhood)
      When I was in grade school, I was exposed to woodworking because our neighboorhood has furniture making. They are very noisy, and really lot of wood dust (kusot) where my mother always ask me to get used to fuel her cooking. Sometimes, i used to watch the wood workers and I remembered they didn't used power tools, mostly hand tools. Like for example, they used miter jig when cutting 45 -degree cut on lumber. But my interest wasn't there yet. It's really just a month ago when I realized I need to create a cabinet to put all our things in order. But I don't have any knowledge how to create one. Actually, I made a simple kitchen cabinet but it's really not a cabinet. It is poorly made. Without any knowledge, I rushed to hardware store and ask for plywood and lumber. I really don't know what to ask. I asked for price of 2x4 ply, and the store agent, was puzzled, she asked her boss, what I'm really looking for, he said that they don't have cut ply only whole which is 4x8. I felt so embarrassed and that's the starting point of my woodworking research. First, I familiarized myself with the different sizes of lumbers, ply and their types. I take advantage my time in office to read all about woodworking. I knew about joineries. I downloaded almost 36Gb of videos and pdf...all about ww...right now my heart and mind is in ww...but I know there'll be more and more hindrances along the way.

      i really appreciate any experiences you can share with me in order to motivate and encourage me and those who are starting in ww. Thank you so much.
      Last edited by argus; 10-01-2012, 12:10 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: small space for a workshop

        Here's my first wood craft:

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by argus View Post
          Here's my first wood craft:

          Nice project ... very useful. Imagine if it was not there.
          Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
          Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
          Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
          3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
          Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
          Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
          Snap On Tools
          Metabo Power Tools
          Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
          Bosch Power Tools
          3M PPS

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          • #6
            Re: small space for a workshop

            may future ka brad sa woodworking.
            you just maximize your space, same with what master timber
            has done in his ww history.
            patience lang ang katapat ng woodworking hobby.
            i have made a bookcase out of my cs, a shopmade miter box, a handheld screw driver and some hand tools, my first tools.

            and rest was kakulam kulam history...

            good luck on your hobby...
            Last edited by jonathanscruz68; 09-27-2012, 10:32 PM.

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            • #7
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              @sir JayL
              Thank you..medyo organize kz akong tao..very useful tlga sya..minsan kz ung tsinelas ko ns kpitbahay n...may aso kz dun smen nangunguha ng tsinelas...hehehe

              @Sir Jonathan
              salamat s encouragement...medyo maliit at masikip ung place nmen kya I try to maximize everything. Actually I have plan in mind, sofa with storage underneath, bed with drawers underneath, hanging cabinets, hybrid laptop table-dresser, etc....but my first priority project now is workbench...
              Last edited by argus; 09-27-2012, 11:19 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: small space for a workshop

                eto nman ung exploded version nya...


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                • #9
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                  hi sir argus - welcome to PHM! I really like your shoes/slipper shelf! ganda ng pagkakagawa - parang hindi first timer hehe

                  I feel that you're in the right track - you've utilized the web to get as much knowledge/info as you can and this will definitely arm you when doing your projects.. Space should not hinder you from doing your projects - like what sir timb has mentioned - siya nga sa laundry area lang daw nagsimula ngayon isa na sa mga gurus and go to guy when it comes to wood working

                  Goodluck sa bago mong hobby and please share your projects kasi we (PHM members) enjoy seeing them.

                  Ganda nung plans na ginagawa mo - ano program gamit mo chief? parang gusto ko din nyan hehe
                  FOR DIY Projects, tips and tricks, please visit [COLOR="Red"][B]http://yesyoucanarchie.blogspot.com/
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                  • #10
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                    @sir archie

                    thanks sir s pag-appreciate..before I make a project I draw it first..ung s shelf, s papel ko lng na drawing..ung angle measurement nia medyo nag cheat ako...wla ako gnamit n protractor or bevel gauge...tingin lng..ung spaces between shelf may sukat nman..hehehe

                    minsan nakakatuwa lng..kz paguwi ko ng bahay nkikita ko ung first craft ko...nakakawala ng pagod..

                    sir archie, ung gamit ko n program s pag sketch s wb ko, Google sketchup 8...http://sketchup.google.com/download/

                    sobra dali nya gamitin...super user friendly...

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                    • #11
                      Re: small space for a workshop

                      Jason Welcome, the introduction you gave immediately garnered you friends, we feel we already know you and a part of the community. Thank You.

                      Originally posted by argus View Post
                      eto nman ung exploded version nya...


                      sketchup is a nice software to use, it tells you when a project is doable. are you willing to send me the sketchup file? I find the design quite complicated and unbalanced. You would want a balanced design meaning if you groove one side, you groove the other as well. Or am I looking at the bottom portion of the wb?
                      I have made a plywood wb out of two pieces of 3/4" plywood, now while it does not have a tail vise or anything, I think it is a very nice and simple first project, solid and heavy too. let me look for pictures and I will post it later. meanwhile can you tell us what tools you have now.

                      click my signature and it will take you there........

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                      • #12
                        Re: small space for a workshop

                        here it is... 2x4 feet plywood workbench... everything including the legs are made of plywood, all you need is a circular saw, a hammer some nails and lots of wood glue.

                        click my signature and it will take you there........

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                        • #13
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                          or must you make them out of solid wood, you can try this design, much simpler and standard workbench configuration....

                          click my signature and it will take you there........

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                          • #14
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                            Thank you sir Timber...appreciate your warmest welcome

                            I agree sir it's quite complicated. and unbalance p...I thougt kz bka magweakened ung lap joints s front...kpg naglagay p ako ng groove s front apron..kya nka butt joint sya...complicated nga...maxado ko kz pinagicpn kya nagiging complicated..thank you sir for that rule of thumb...about balance...I learned something new...

                            I'm trying to mount on the wall, the back part of the wb to maximized the limited space of my workshop. Because on my first post,the layout of my workshop.. there is 1-foot wide by 1-foot deep open drainage. Just now, i have an idea, what if I cover the drainage just to stand the feet flat on the ground?..so that my design won't suffer and be complicated...

                            I remembered I watched a video about WB out of ply...just now I think of my first WB to be made out of ply..is it cheaper that solid wood?

                            My Tools at hand:

                            Hand Tools :
                            1.) stanley Nest Of Saws Interchangeable Blades
                            2.) 1/4",1/2",3/4" chisel
                            3.) square gauge (is it 400 php plus combination square is best buy?)
                            4.) Hammer Rubber Mallet Wooden
                            5.) stanley level I-beam 6"
                            6.) small and big metal planer
                            7.) pliers,cutters
                            8.) screwdrivers
                            9.) 50' tape measure

                            Power tools"
                            1.) Black & Decker KR504 Hammer Drill
                            2.) gws7‑115‑bosch‑angle‑grinder

                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                            Plan to buy: (maybe by next week)
                            1.) circular saw (is it ok to buy second hand?) and what brand is better?
                            2.) clamps (where I can buy? long and short clamps?)
                            Is C-clamp is better that other small types of clamps?

                            Sit Timber I'm willing to send my sketch. I will make another sketch of my WB using ply...
                            Last edited by argus; 09-28-2012, 06:15 AM.

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                            • #15
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                              "Can you give me some advice, if I need to continue making a workbench (20'x60x30') or should I forget my hobby and think of something else."

                              -supermega workbench ba ito?

                              hmmm...pakopya naman ng megabyte files mo ng ww! hehe

                              your workbench design is a bit complicated..with the files you have downloaded i guess you have a pretty simple wb design if you will just find it..

                              just make the wb strong and wont rack.

                              invest in a circular saw now!

                              weeeee!

                              V
                              The devil will find work for idle hands to do.-[I]Morrissey[/I]

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