Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

Yes, you got it right.

That is price for a set of 3.

An alternative would be Wolfcraft 2590, set of 4, about $25. Or other styles like these (hand, adjustable, one size fits all, etc.).

I don't know whether or what countersinks are available locally.

In absence of 'proper' countersink, I suppose you could use a larger (twist) drill bit mounted on a second drill/driver or hand drill. Tedious to be switching drills, but if there are two people...

Another option, unconventional, could be to use pan head screws, so the screw heads are exposed instead of hidden. This gives the 'battleship' or 'removable panel' look, especially if the screw heads are unpainted and stainless steel (e.g., paint panels before mounting).

Thanks for all your help! I have to check if they have this in Home Depot, cos our local construction store don't have this item for sale.:)

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

the title..1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex
where has it gone?
1/4 inch versus 6mm? a hairline difference.

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

1/4 and 6mm is only a hairline, but ut happens that the 1/4 is a 4.5mm so its a big hairline.

For countersinks, I have seen them in Binondo hardware stores.

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

I am not saying anything about you... in fact I am commenting on what you said, do not take it as an attack on you because it is not. I have met people in the woodworking industry that uses a plank of wood instead of an existing fence on the tablesaw, 20 years doesn't mean what they do is correct too. I am stating that yes you can use what you want to, but it is best to give a correct advice. there are people here that know zip about the craft, it would be proper to share what is correct instead of what is pwede na. it is what keeps people from improving and not moving backwards. Don't you think so?
If I knew nothing about the craft and I read that you can use the drill chuck to drill a countersink, what stops me from doing so? do you think that is instilling good information?
Now what if someone posted that a circular saw mounted under the table is a very good replacement of a ts?
I am not stopping you from posting what you want. it is a reflection of what you know and how you do things.

btw, I have been woodworking for 3 years, two of which I did not do much...

do not take it bad, it is a reminder not a warning or an insult.

I got your point chief. Everything is well taken.

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

1/4 and 6mm is only a hairline, but ut happens that the 1/4 is a 4.5mm so its a big hairline.

For countersinks, I have seen them in Binondo hardware stores.

Does anybody know any store who sells countersink bits in Cavite? Is this available in powertools shops?

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

Hi

Can I use this type of countersink instead of the one posted earlier?

http://philippines.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=browseSubRange&Ne=4294957122&N=4294846616&productNum=0218551

What size do I need for a 1inch Hardiscrew?

Thanks so much!

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

RSP has very expensive prices for a DIYer, best is to visit Binondo - you get to shop more, stroll and eat pa 😀

For the angle, check the actual screw that you would use, better yet bring one.

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

RSP has very expensive prices for a DIYer, best is to visit Binondo - you get to shop more, stroll and eat pa 😀

For the angle, check the actual screw that you would use, better yet bring one.

I noticed that they also deliver 5-7 days, ang tagal! I don't like to go to Binondo kasi hirap magpark, tapos init pa ngayon 🙁 but just in case, which part in Binondo should I stroll along to look for the countersink bit?

is that type of countersink ok na for the hardiflex? or do i get the one you can put the drill in the middle?

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

Hi

Can I use this type of countersink instead of the one posted earlier?

http://philippines.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=browseSubRange&Ne=4294957122&N=4294846616&productNum=0218551

What size do I need for a 1inch Hardiscrew?

Thanks so much!

Screw pala ang gagamitin mo? In that case, the countersink bit is optional. The ficem screw has ridges under the head. "Kumakamot" sabi ng intstaller namin.

It countersinks by itself.

http://www.diytrade.com/china/4/products/5294778/Fiber_Cement_Board_Self_Drilling_Screw.html#normal_img

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

Last time I was at Y2K (like To Suy but not in Binondo -- search forum for more info), I ...

-- found that they don't sell Hardiflex or fiber cement screws. How can this be? Where do contractors get ficem screws from, if not from the To Suys of this world?

-- saw countersinks, Rex brand, shank 1/4, diameters 6 mm, 3/8, 1/2, 16 mm, 3/4 in, 160 to 225 pesos before discount.

Only place I saw ficem screws before are MC Home Depot, but only #6, #7, and #10. What is the usual size used? I would have thought #8?

The ficem screws there come in gold pan head version (where is this used?); and gold and silver flat head version intended to be countersunk. In the gold flat head version, the ridges on the underside of the cone are very small/shallow, not as big as pictured in previous post. You will wonder why they even bothered to put ridges? Looks more decorative than functional. I don't know how they could possibly 'bite' into the board.

Re: 1/4 inch vs. 6mm Hardiflex

Screw pala ang gagamitin mo? In that case, the countersink bit is optional. The ficem screw has ridges under the head. "Kumakamot" sabi ng intstaller namin.

It countersinks by itself.

http://www.diytrade.com/china/4/products/5294778/Fiber_Cement_Board_Self_Drilling_Screw.html#normal_img

I think we are using the same screw but mine is colored silver, so I don't need a countersink bit anymore for this? Cos it countersink by itself? Sorry I had to repeat just want to make sure. :p

Thanks very much Joey!

Last time I was at Y2K (like To Suy but not in Binondo -- search forum for more info), I ...

-- found that they don't sell Hardiflex or fiber cement screws. How can this be? Where do contractors get ficem screws from, if not from the To Suys of this world?

-- saw countersinks, Rex brand, shank 1/4, diameters 6 mm, 3/8, 1/2, 16 mm, 3/4 in, 160 to 225 pesos before discount.

Only place I saw ficem screws before are MC Home Depot, but only #6, #7, and #10. What is the usual size used? I would have thought #8?

The ficem screws there come in gold pan head version (where is this used?); and gold and silver flat head version intended to be countersunk. In the gold flat head version, the ridges on the underside of the cone are very small/shallow, not as big as pictured in previous post. You will wonder why they even bothered to put ridges? Looks more decorative than functional. I don't know how they could possibly 'bite' into the board.

I bought the hardiscrew from the dealer of the James Hardie Hardiflex I discovered from the dealer's list they have available on their website ( http://www.jameshardie.com.ph/dealerslist.html ). I am just not sure if the hardiscrew they sell is also James Hardie, they sell it at P1 per piece for 1inch hardiscrew.

Greetings!
This actually is my first time to post here so I wish I do you guys justice.

The issue of using hardlflex is simple, if fiber boards thru time get enough moisture into the board there is a tendency for it to simply fall crumble to down. To the untrained eye, if no one notices the water map above ayun na it will fall in a huge crash. There is actually a well known mall in MM whole 1500 sq.m. wide ceiling using fiber board carshed. Fortunately walang pasok mga workers. It was not televised but in the construction industry word gets around.

Many advantages of using fiber boards; walang anay, walang sunog. Problema ko nga nasa bahay ako ng parents ko ayun 80% ng kisame inanay binaklas kahapon lang dito ko to estimate and design a new ceiling. Frankly I made sure to apply anti-termite on all wood installations ako mismo I painted it wraparound. Pero to o avail so I will make a redesign half ofte ceiling will be ficem board the other half simply to plaster the rough underslaband beam surfaces mahal na kasi materyales to cut costs.

Finishing isexpensive talagang ganun. Depends on your workers kung sanay o nagsasanay-sanayan. Frankly sa 20 years ko sa construction madaming nagmamagaling you simply can't supervise well enough to assure no wastage o walang magiging pangit lalo na kung pakyawan ko binarat mo trabahador mo.

An off topic comment !

How about an introductions first to the forum, we have a Member Introductions just down below the PHM index page. We want to know you more being a new member of this forum.

Thanks,

rosy

, your right, water is the number one enemy of a fiber cement board. and as you have mentioned, it takes some time for water (moisture), and a lot of it :-), to affect the properties of the board to a point where it starts to deteriorate.

used as a ceiling board in a house, the only way water could penetrate the board in sufficient quantity is if you have a water leak in the roof area that has not been fix for a long period of time. by simply doing a regular inspection (e.g. once a year after a heavy down pour) and proper maintenance of the roof area once a leak has been detected (e.g. could be due to sloppy work cause by 'pakyawan' in the first place 🙂 he he he), the problem of a falling fiber cement board will never happen.

there is just too many advantages of using fiber cement board over ordinary plywood that it makes sense to use it and the cost difference is really not that big ... cheers

Boo!

Good day to everyone ask ko lang kung kailangan bang masilyahan ang mga hardifles screw? at pwede na na po bang ipang masilya ay ang ponching compound with latex flat wall? okay na po bang pang masilya ito? intya ko po reply nyo ang nagamit ko flexiboard eh kapapagawa ko pa lang ang minasilyahan lang na carpintero ay ung mga dugtungan ang hardifles screw nakalitaw. Kaya tanong ko kung okay lang masilyahan ang hardiflex screw?