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(@ruel_g)
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Is there anyone tried a "no more nails"?which is better,"no more nails or wood glue?
I'm using bronco wood glue

 
Posted : 27/05/2014 11:15 am
violaine
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Re: no more nail

hey there...

there are two competing brands that market the same product with almost the same name:
Bosny''s "NO MORE NAIL" and Henkel's "NO MORE NAILS"...just the "S" will make a difference...

I prefer Henkel's product over Bosny for two reasons:
1. There is an "exterior" type with fast set up (5 minutes)...
2. screw-able tip cover if you are going to use just a small amount...silicone glues and such stuff have an act of "screwing" the portion left at the nozzle (they cure fast due to exposure to air)and this feature of Henkel's No More Nails is sure to air-seal the tip..so fresh everytime.

btw, the difference in the price tag is about 5 pisotas...so id go for the Henkel's.

hope this helps.

lets DIY them!!!

The devil will find work for idle hands to do.-Morrissey

 
Posted : 28/05/2014 5:49 am
violaine
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Re: no more nail

btw, i didn't answer your question.."between no more nails and wood glue..."

of course, you use wood glue to join two wood surfaces.

i use "no more nails" when using nails is a hassle...like installing wooden battens on the stone floor (you need a concrete nail or a lag bolt with lead shield)...and some other material where nail is a no-no (eg..pvc panels, hardiflex...etc..)

and yes of course you can use "no more nails" on any surface including joining two wood surfaces...

but...since "No more nails" is a thick pasty booger like thing, the ease of application of the wood glues cannot be beat.

The devil will find work for idle hands to do.-Morrissey

 
Posted : 28/05/2014 5:54 am
horge
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Re: no more nail

I've used the Bostick product.
It's like working with taffy, and I find that I prefer to use it only on small jobs
where I can clamp the pieces together. I've used it most in speaker cabinet
builds, in wood and in MDF. It doesn't spread as easily as I'd like, and cleanup
of excess glue can be extremely annoying.

Real nails at least allow salvage of materials from older projects.
Old school phenolic-resin glues are easier to apply, and a heck of a lot easier
to work around, when salvaging wood from old builds.... or maybe I'm just
old-fashioned.

 
Posted : 28/05/2014 11:18 am
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Re: no more nail

thanks for the replies..So, is it advisable to use no more nails instead of glue in terms of stability.
Like for example,in tabletop...Wood glue or no more nails.

 
Posted : 28/05/2014 10:22 pm
horge
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Re: no more nail

"No More Nails" (call it NMN) is intended as a GENERAL CONSTRUCTION adhesive.

NMN produces a very tough bond resistant to joint flexure. Resin is more brittle, and
can fracture in the face of high frequency (and high amplitude) flexure. Both glues,
used heedless of grain-alignment/cyclic wood movement/shrinkage, can lead to the
wood tearing itself apart.

NMN isn't as fluid as waterbased phenolic-resin, hence more difficult to apply to joints
that are tighter or more complex than butt, rabbet or lap. NMN's cured color is too
bright to allow excess glue to remain on presentation surfaces, and NMN cleanup is
more difficult pre-curing (i.e. squeezout), as well as post-curing (which is when the
manufacturer recommends doing it) precisely because the cured glue is tough rather
than brittle.

For the tabletop, I'd stick to something easier to clean up.
For a structural frame that's out of general sight, I might consider NMN.

JM2petot

 
Posted : 29/05/2014 6:21 am
(@ruel_g)
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Re: no more nail

Thank you guys.I'd stick w/ glue.

 
Posted : 29/05/2014 8:15 am
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