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Help Please: Where to buy Frequency Converter

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(@ellieces)
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Hi all! Ask ko lang po kung saan nakaka bili ng frequency converter. I have noticed that half of my power tools are 50Hz... eh 60Hz tayo dito sa Philippines. Yung mga ginamit ko,before ko napansin na 50Hz pala, ay nasira na. Nasira ko na yung sander, router and drill. My other stuffs like vacuum, table saw, angle grinder and circular saws hindi ko tuloy magamit.

 
Posted : 22/01/2014 10:50 am
 pyth
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Re: Help Please: Where to buy Frequency Converter

As per my own opinion, Buying frequency converter is not solution to your problem. Its a misconception to blame frequency for the easy breakdown of 50hz tools and equipment. Its rasther lies in 2 factors, the tool make it self and proper knowledge how to offset effect of that 50 hz thing.
A tool with 50hz rating if plug to 60hz outlet will run 20% faster than its maximum rated speed thus it will result to overheating which will lead to breakdown. To offset this, proper use of this tool for example a router particulary ryobi or ozito which rated 50 hz lies on the speed controller. If the speed controller has level knob 1-6..Level 5 and-6 (max speed) should not be used. Why?its because at 60hz supply the level to # 4 makes the machine at its max rated speed . Setting to set to speed 5 & 6 will run the router at more than the maximum speed therefore you will notice some heat at the vents . Since the machine wires and insulation is good only for maximum RPM speed having run at higher than that insulation will break and your tool is doomed.
Also the tool make itself was a factor. If you used high end router from abroad like HILTI Metabo etc rated at 50hz and used here.It will not broke down.Why because their insulation parts and wiring are made to withstand harshest condition at RPM speed more than their rated RPM. Even you run 20% more the tool will stay good because the material and vents was designed for heavy duty use.
As per my opinion!Cheers..:havefun:

 
Posted : 23/01/2014 12:46 pm
(@willyfernando)
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Re: Help Please: Where to buy Frequency Converter

Hi all! Ask ko lang po kung saan nakaka bili ng frequency converter. I have noticed that half of my power tools are 50Hz... eh 60Hz tayo dito sa Philippines. Yung mga ginamit ko,before ko napansin na 50Hz pala, ay nasira na. Nasira ko na yung sander, router and drill. My other stuffs like vacuum, table saw, angle grinder and circular saws hindi ko tuloy magamit.

I was one of those contractors who got bitten by the 50hz bug. Whether brand new or slightly used they all went kaput after sometime. What these tools gave me is chance to get a head start w/ an affordable budget then managed to replace them one by one with a correct rating tool. What I am trying to say is you will eventually find that these tools will meet their end in a setting of 60hz no matter what but if you can manage to make them pay for their replacement while you can then by all means make their end a worthy service. A VFD costs at least 16k for a model that can handle 1000w and above. With that budget you can buy at least four different useful start up tools. 😉

 
Posted : 23/01/2014 2:31 pm
(@ellieces)
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Re: Help Please: Where to buy Frequency Converter

Thanks for the inputs. Yes, I do believe the make is a big factor. Yung mga nasira ay Ryobi brand. That is why everytime I buy a new tool now, I always get Makita.

Anyway, all these electrical stuffs is confusing for me. Basta my brains shuts down talaga. Hahahaha! So I will have my husband explain to me what pyth said. Hindi ko rin naman ginagamit sya sa maximum speed but with just a few seconds naririnig ko talaga na nagrereklamo yung motor (lalo na dun sa finishing sander). But from what we understand, mostly ang affected sa frequency ay yung mga motors. So we don't understand why some of our non-motor stuffs that are 50Hz also broke down: flat iron and yung battery nung cordless drill ko sira na (50hz charger).

I'm still looking for a frequency converter kasi hindi lang sa power tools ko gagamitin. I have a few household/domestic stuffs that are running in 50Hz. I am especially wanting to buy for my portable clothes dryer. It uses a heater fan na isa lang yung fan speed. .. takes at least 2hrs to dry one load of laundry kaya hindi talaga sya pwede ipilit gamitin without a converter . So I hope someone can still direct me where to buy... especially if the converter is cheaper than buying a new tumble dryer. 😉

 
Posted : 27/01/2014 2:11 pm
(@willyfernando)
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Re: Help Please: Where to buy Frequency Converter

From what I know a brand new VFD would cost around 7-10k for 1HP or 750 watts and below. 1000W and above starts at 16k and so forth. Would these justify the differential cost of your tumble dryer? How do you plan to set it up? Point of use or movable? Here is a link to one supplier that might be able to help you. Their instruments they claim to be Korean made... http://www.adpost.com/ph/business_products_services/7199/

 
Posted : 28/01/2014 8:41 am
(@ellieces)
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From what I know a brand new VFD would cost around 7-10k for 1HP or 750 watts and below. 1000W and above starts at 16k and so forth. Would these justify the differential cost of your tumble dryer? How do you plan to set it up? Point of use or movable? Here is a link to one supplier that might be able to help you. Their instruments they claim to be Korean made... http://www.adpost.com/ph/business_products_services/7199/

Thank yoy for giving me an idea of the cost. If only for the clothes dryer, mas maigi pa nga mamili na lang ng bagong tumble dryer, kailangan lang mag rearrange to make space at home.

But if consider yung mga ibang power tools ko (including the big ones like table saw and planer), buying a converter is a cheaper option for now.

Salamat ulit sa mga inputs 🙂
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Edit: Ayun pala sanabi mo na sa first reply about the price, di ko napansin.

 
Posted : 28/01/2014 9:46 am
(@willyfernando)
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Re: Help Please: Where to buy Frequency Converter

Yeah for the big ticket items i'd recommend a VFD. It will also save you some money in terms of operational cost.

 
Posted : 29/01/2014 12:52 am
(@katevei)
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You can search in Google to find some famous suppliers of frequency converters such as Simens, Hitach, ABB, Veichi and more. You can go to this website which provides both general purpose and special purpose frequency converters with good quality:
veichi.org/variable-frequency-drives.html

 
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