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Built a small aboveground, 3-person, tiled concrete tub back in '07... does that count?

There was an existing R.C. slab underneath, and it was s a 1-man, five week job, using welded wire mesh
as reinforcement to poured 40mm thin concrete walls and a 100mm thick floorslab (meron waterproofing
compound ang halo). I didn't use a membrane over that. Instead I applied 2 different fluid treatments:
Thoroseal then a gray elastomeric spackle, before the rough cement tiling base. Mosaic tile sheets followed,
and then grout with a mixed-in waterproofing compound (ABC, if I remember right).

The trick is to plan the piping properly, and understand pump throughput total fluid volume, and overflow
rates... if you don't, your sump may run dry before any water can return from the pool, or else your sump
may overflow when you shut off the circulation pump. Sayang lang ang work mo if you don't size your
overflow and your sump properly.

I haven't used it since late 2009. Even though I thoroughly cleaned it out, the trauma of Ondoy has just
made it impossible to enjoy using it. It still holds water without fail, but it's been easier to leave it empty
(dry) the past 13 months. I can post pics if you like, and sketch some details... but if you're talking about a
larger, or in-ground, pool... then forget I said anything, haha.

Happy New Year 🙂

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Swimming pool ba inquiry or pool table? Hehehe
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Yes swimming pool. I was thinking of those vinyl lined diy pools not the concrete/tiled pool. Less complex but I haven't seen one locally. Small Lang Baka 3x6x1.2m. Tnx!
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Speaking of pool or pond liners, anyone know where to get these or similar but less expensive? I just need a small piece to line a box say about 1 x 1 x 4 ft or longer to make it a tank for soaking wood, bamboo, etc.

I suppose I could use tarp, but is there anything better?

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id go ahead using tarp Guad, i tried asking for quotes from pond liner suppliers, some are even snobs that they didnt attend to me when i told them that its just about 30sq.m area that i need them to look at. some gave me quotations but on the estimate would have cost me double the cost if i was just to pour cement and waterproof my pond.

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I think there you may also ask those gardening guys as I've seen before gardens on the penthouse with blue lining underneath so as to avoid the water from seeping into the rooms below and to contain them for plants to continually be watered.

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Speaking of pool or pond liners, anyone know where to get these or similar but less expensive? I just need a small piece to line a box say about 1 x 1 x 4 ft or longer to make it a tank for soaking wood, bamboo, etc.

Hi!
Suppliers typically deal in whole, 12mx30m or 10mx25m sheets, usually
8 to 10mm thickness. For a 1x1x4 foot chamber, you can try asking the
koi enthusiast crowd if they have any leftover scrap. I'm not sure that
PE or PVC pondliner is what will serve you best, though. See below.

I suppose I could use tarp, but is there anything better?

Tarp can work, but the longer/heavier the pieces soaked (you did hint at
pieces longer than 4') the more likely you'll compromise the membrane,
particularly if the pieces have corners or sharp contours that can abrade
the tarp. you can lay down foam rubber batterboard to take the beating,
but the stuff floats. I'm assuming your soak fluid isn't at all hostile to the
membrane, but if it is, then there's a more durable solution:

If you're going to build a rectangular box to cradle the tarp (or pondliner,
which can also tear) , maybe you can just waterproof the box interior with
marine epoxy, and omit the liner/tarp altogether. I'm sure you know that
large aquaria are still built using this method, to save on glass.

i tried asking for quotes from pond liner suppliers, some are even snobs that they didnt attend to me when i told them that its just about 30sq.m area that i need them to look at.

Hi!
I too, have had awkward dealings with suppliers like HooBee, or KSA.
See above, re: suppliers vs. end-users who might have excess scrap.

some gave me quotations but on the estimate would have cost me double the cost if i was just to pour cement and waterproof my pond.

Look at it this way:
Not all concrete treatments (or even all membranes) are fish safe.
the concrete itself can keep your water's pH poisonously high for
several weeks and several water-changes, as the cement's alkalinity
leaches out. The usual shortcuts, like neutralizing via muriatic acid,
actually work to compromise many waterproofing solutions.

Pond liners cost a premium because they afford more-immediately
fish-safe waterproofing. A contractor on a deadline to provide a
fish-safe environmant will pay that premium, and the suppliers all
count on it.

🙂

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Thanks for the replies and detailed info and advice. The fluid is either just water or some 'natural' preservative solution. I think I will go with tarp for now so that the box size can be adjustable. When I figure out the workflow and piece sizes better, I can do epoxy on a fixed-size box. Although if I can figure out how to seal the seams and corners on an adjustable box, then I can skip tarp and go epoxy.

Going back to original post ... I noticed one of those above-ground folding pools at HMR recently. Made by Poolscape (Australia), with canopy, about P3.5K.

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Look at it this way:
Not all concrete treatments (or even all membranes) are fish safe.
the concrete itself can keep your water's pH poisonously high for
several weeks and several water-changes, as the cement's alkalinity
leaches out. The usual shortcuts, like neutralizing via muriatic acid,
actually work to compromise many waterproofing solutions.

Can someone recommend a waterproofing brand for pool that is safe for fish and humans?