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Rosy, yung black screw is actually the gypsum screw. Nakavawian lang na taw agin black screw kasi I think sa jobsite mad maintindihan ng mga trabahador Kung sabihin mo black screw gamitin nyo or yung black screw kesa sabihin sa Manila na gypsum screw

black screw dahil ba black oxide finish yung gypsum screw?:D

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Bro ernie, woodworkboy,

Salamat po guys for the information !!!!!

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Sir, i dont agree with your statement na nastuck yung pinoy sa lumang technology. Geological factors and climate are the first thing to consider when adapting modern technology/process of construction.

Its not about change after all.

Anyway, i'd like to share you this link.
15-storey New Ark Hotel built in less than 6 days
http://bsb.broad.com/view.php?id=4903

Broad Group
http://bsb.broad.com/list.php?cid=46
http://www.broad.com/
Meron kaya may lakas ng loob gumawa dito nyan?:D:D

Walang gagawa sa Pilipinas nyan at bakit? Kung mabilisan lang di gagawin sa Pilipinas yan. It's all about money Ka wood.

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Sir, hindi ba kalawang yung naging problema dun? malapit sa dagat yung Baseco kaya nila inabandona yung project?

It wasn't abandoned, In fact it was featured in ABS CBN documentary program some years ago.:)

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It wasn't abandoned, In fact it was featured in ABS CBN documentary program some years ago.:)

I knew that the Bagong Buhay Project was not completed. Initial phase lang yung 1000 houses na ginawa nila after ng sunog. They didn't totally abandoned that kind of project but shifted back to using CHB. Do you happen to know where else did they have a project like? Please tell me.

As far as i know, they only adapted that kind of construction technology due it's soft ground (malambot ang lupa sa Baseco), bahain din, lumulubog ang lupa, hot and humid dahil malapit sa dagat. mabilis kumalawang dun.

At sa pagkakatanda ko isang bese nung nagphotowalk kami dun para makapagstreet life photograhy para sa exhibit namin. nakita namin pareho gawa ng Gawad Kalinga at Habitat for Humanity. Hollow Block yung gamit ng GK in between ng bawat bahay pero steel framing din sa facade. while HFH lahat steel framing na nakabolted sa concrete slab since malambot ang lupa dun kaya yun na ang nagsilbing foundation.

Nag-interview din kami dun. Nung tinurn-over ang bahay ng HFH, sahig, apat na pader at aluminum na bubong lang ang meron, walang pintuan at bintana. Sira-sira na din yung ibang ficem boards dahil mahinang klase ang ginamit at manipis siguro nasa 4-5mm lang yun. yung steel framing nila manipis din at di sila makakapagdugtong ng hollow blocks kung mag-eextend sila dun.

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Walang gagawa sa Pilipinas nyan at bakit? Kung mabilisan lang di gagawin sa Pilipinas yan. It's all about money Ka wood.

It's all about money? sino bang hindi? lahat naman ng nasa construction hindi ba pera-pera lang din? mabilisan o matagalan, pera pa din yun (ika nga nila eh, cost-cutting is the key! kaya sagot ng SMDC: we are "The Good Guys!:banana1::banana1::banana1:) baka po hindi pa kayang gawin.

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I think what we all want to achieve here is the best system of alternative technology on housing. The results of these researches are both beneficial to business and humanitarian mission. It doesn't hurt to dig deeper into the tech of Ka Oca's vision but it pays to learn from the those who have done them first like what woodworkboy has explained with the Bagong Buhay project. At least from there Ka Oca can now modify or improve the base of his material to suit local conditions be it near the sea or mountain. It also doesn't hurt to earn from this tech. How else can you sustain it if you don't have the means to recycle capital? So go ahead Ka Oca, go with your dream. Go ahead woodwork boy, we need more inputs to improve this tech and let our kababayans have a share of the benefits. Kudos sa inyong mga skeptics and visionaries. You all make a difference in our daily lives.:bike2::thanks:

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I think what we all want to achieve here is the best system of alternative technology on housing. The results of these researches are both beneficial to business and humanitarian mission. It doesn't hurt to dig deeper into the tech of Ka Oca's vision but it pays to learn from the those who have done them first like what woodworkboy has explained with the Bagong Buhay project. At least from there Ka Oca can now modify or improve the base of his material to suit local conditions be it near the sea or mountain. It also doesn't hurt to earn from this tech. How else can you sustain it if you don't have the means to recycle capital? So go ahead Ka Oca, go with your dream. Go ahead woodwork boy, we need more inputs to improve this tech and let our kababayans have a share of the benefits. Kudos sa inyong mga skeptics and visionaries. You all make a difference in our daily lives.:bike2::thanks:

Thank you, Sir WillyFernando!
Anyway, i am not against his vision of adapting new construction technology. But we should always consider those factors and improve the process to suit the conditions of a location for the benefits of the future homeowners.

Based on my experience and observation, halos lahat ng construction companies dito madalas hindi nasusunod ang national building code at cost-cutting ang nangyayari. The most important factor here is the geological research. They seems to forget that or ignore (that's the worst case) several factors.

Cost-cutting is not bad at all but it's different here. Iilan lang sa mga residential project ang fully occupied dahil na din sa mga reklamo at problemang naexperience nila. Yes, madaming residential project is fully owned pero hindi fully occupied. From north to south, andaming housing projects (townhouse, duplex, quadruplex, etc) walang mga nakatira o inabandona ang mga bahay pagkalipas ng iilang taon lang.

Madalas kasi sa mga builders na yan walang pakialam sa mga titira sa mga itinayo nila. Ang mahalaga sa kanila ay pera.

:peace:

(Correct me if i am wrong with my judgmental statement)

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Thank you, Sir WillyFernando!
Anyway, i am not against his vision of adapting new construction technology. But we should always consider those factors and improve the process to suit the conditions of a location for the benefits of the future homeowners.

Based on my experience and observation, halos lahat ng construction companies dito madalas hindi nasusunod ang national building code at cost-cutting ang nangyayari. The most important factor here is the geological research. They seems to forget that or ignore (that's the worst case) several factors.

Cost-cutting is not bad at all but it's different here. Iilan lang sa mga residential project ang fully occupied dahil na din sa mga reklamo at problemang naexperience nila. Yes, madaming residential project is fully owned pero hindi fully occupied. From north to south, andaming housing projects (townhouse, duplex, quadruplex, etc) walang mga nakatira o inabandona ang mga bahay pagkalipas ng iilang taon lang.

Madalas kasi sa mga builders na yan walang pakialam sa mga titira sa mga itinayo nila. Ang mahalaga sa kanila ay pera.

:peace:

(Correct me if i am wrong with my judgmental statement)

I will correct you. Yes it is a judgmental statement. though I am not a contractor I am aware of people who make them according to the design handed out to them. Some even earn little and build just for the sake of having continuous work for themselves and their people. I hate the sound of that term "pera-pera lang", do you do things that you don't get paid for? and when you do earn, pera-pera lang ba yan? I wish you would stop using the term kasi it reflects back to you. hopefully people realize that we do need to earn (yes, kailangan ka bayaran ng pera) but it doesn't mean that everything revolves around pera! you cannot buy food without it, for some they cannot even have freinds without it.
bottomline, if you think that pera-pera is the way to go then go for it, I will not even correct your post. I just hope that you don't rub off your mentality to other readers here.

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I will correct you. Yes it is a judgmental statement. though I am not a contractor I am aware of people who make them according to the design handed out to them. Some even earn little and build just for the sake of having continuous work for themselves and their people. I hate the sound of that term "pera-pera lang", do you do things that you don't get paid for? and when you do earn, pera-pera lang ba yan? I wish you would stop using the term kasi it reflects back to you. hopefully people realize that we do need to earn (yes, kailangan ka bayaran ng pera) but it doesn't mean that everything revolves around pera! you cannot buy food without it, for some they cannot even have freinds without it.
bottomline, if you think that pera-pera is the way to go then go for it, I will not even correct your post. I just hope that you don't rub off your mentality to other readers here.

Sir, mali ho yata pagkakaintindi ninyo. Kontra po ako dun sa pera-pera system kaya ko nga ginawang halimbawa yung "the good guys".
On the independent contractor, yes, some earn little, minsan talo pa pag may backjobs. Yung iba para nga may continous work para sa tauhan nila. But do you really think all those housing in bulacan, pampanga, cavite, laguna had been built according to the design and building code? Pera-pera was the term used dahil madalas na proseso nyan: build, sell, build, sell. Pero natitirhan nga ba lahat ng bahay na yun? Puro marketing strategy lang, less benefits for the homeowner. lalo na yung mga pinapahulugan sa ofw. kawawa naman sila huhulugan ng 10-30 years, sira na bahay mo, di pa nangangalahati yung hulog mo. para ka lang bumili ng lupa nun. madalas wala pa sa standard ang materyales. so hindi ba pera-pera yun?

Of course, we need to earn. I didn't said no. I am referring to those corporation at hindi naman independent/small contractor. At hindi ko din naman nilalahat ang nasa construction industry. They do need to earn but they should also consider the future homeowner. It should be benefecial for both parties.

I did judge them but there is no mentality in what i said, afaik. I think that's a fact.

Sorry for using that term.:peace: won't use that again.

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In the Ideal world of construction we wish that everything is done up to specs. In the real world that is not the case. The horrible projects mentioned have been a result of several factors. The builder/developer did not have the right personnel to handle the project skill or tech wise. The capital expenditures may have been under estimated resulting in shortcuts or under spec materials to compensate for their shortcoming. In the absence of strict building code implementation construction quality often decays along with the morality of the unmindful investor/developer. Workers trade certification is often ignored in this country thats why we get poor results. In the end you wind up getting the worst built dream house. To be fair, there are also well built, properly planned and executed projects that also have difficulty surviving in the market because of the pricing factor. I've seen excellent work that simply failed to meet their business goals because of the cheap mindset of the market. Like any business we can only pray to be given a chance to showcase what we can share with the market and hope to be returned with sustainability. The problems mentioned by [COLOR="Blue"]woodworkboy are not only prevalent in this country but also in other nations as well. In fact there are much worst countries that are now paying the price of their greed in the recent earthquakes that have plagued them. Lets use this forum to increase our talents, skills and knowledge for the benefit of our brethren. We are here to collectively come up with solutions and share our learning curves so that others in the future may pick up where we left off hopefully with much success. We have known all along the problems that plague our industry. Let us now focus on changing them to better our children's lives and future generations. This community aims to save would be buyers and prospective investors from the horrors of those who were victims of such circumstances. This is also their avenue to air their sentiments so that developers will now be conscious of their builds. 🙂

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In the Ideal world of construction we wish that everything is done up to specs. In the real world that is not the case. The horrible projects mentioned have been a result of several factors. The builder/developer did not have the right personnel to handle the project skill or tech wise. The capital expenditures may have been under estimated resulting in shortcuts or under spec materials to compensate for their shortcoming. In the absence of strict building code implementation construction quality often decays along with the morality of the unmindful investor/developer. Workers trade certification is often ignored in this country thats why we get poor results. In the end you wind up getting the worst built dream house. To be fair, there are also well built, properly planned and executed projects that also have difficulty surviving in the market because of the pricing factor. I've seen excellent work that simply failed to meet their business goals because of the cheap mindset of the market. Like any business we can only pray to be given a chance to showcase what we can share with the market and hope to be returned with sustainability. The problems mentioned by [COLOR="Blue"]woodworkboy are not only prevalent in this country but also in other nations as well. In fact there are much worst countries that are now paying the price of their greed in the recent earthquakes that have plagued them. Lets use this forum to increase our talents, skills and knowledge for the benefit of our brethren. We are here to collectively come up with solutions and share our learning curves so that others in the future may pick up where we left off hopefully with much success. We have known all along the problems that plague our industry. Let us now focus on changing them to better our children's lives and future generations. This community aims to save would be buyers and prospective investors from the horrors of those who were victims of such circumstances. This is also their avenue to air their sentiments so that developers will now be conscious of their builds. 🙂

@willyfernando - Yes, i do agree with everything you just said there.

@ocanusjr - i am not against your vision. i just shared my views on using light gauge steel framing. Anyway, you can check this out. Check her acclaimed line of prefabricated homes.

Source: Rocio Romero
http://www.rocioromero.com/brochures/Plan%20the%20LV_12.16.11_spread.pdf
http://www.rocioromero.com/LVSlideshow.html
http://www.rocioromero.com/brochures/Build%20the%20LV-08-17-11_low%20res.pdf
http://www.rocioromero.com/LVSeriesExploreModels.html
http://www.rocioromero.com/LVconstructionProcess.html

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Up natin after more than 2 years na absent ako...

an interesting topic that has been on going for 2 years 🙂 ... i'll read all thread and reply from the point of view as a consumer 🙂 ... cheers

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