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Right metal sizes for window grille?

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(@fourtheboys96)
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Hi!

We are moving to a another rented house, a very old one. Unfortunately, all the windows only have jalousie (not sure of the spelling) and screen on the outside. I will definitely install metal window grills ASAP for security purposes.

Since this is not my own house, my design is simple. Flatbars as the frame. Square bars will be placed horizontally across sides. Then a couple of vertical square bars in the middle for additional strength.

I need advice for the minimum size of the flat bar and square bar.
Also the maximum distance between the horizontal slots.

Thanks!

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Posted : 26/09/2014 9:24 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

You can use 1x3/16 flat bar and 9mm square bar. Usually 4 inches ang ideal na distance. Kaw na ang mag adjust kung mas medyo malaking sukat na flat bar at square bar ang gagamitin mo. Siyempre mas malaki mas matibay.

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Posted : 26/09/2014 9:55 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

For the square bars, ask for the standard 12mm, hope they give you the standard size kasi usually
undersized ang binibigay. As a personal choice, I prefer a bigger size of square bars, the 9mm size is a bit small and can easily be cut.

Good luck on your choice !! 😉

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Posted : 26/09/2014 10:30 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

1x6mm flat bar for frame and 12 mm square bar..usually sa hardware store color coding na ang bakal..mas maganda kung mag dala ka ng caliper or any measuring tools..anyway eto yung mga grill na ginawa ko..


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Posted : 26/09/2014 10:49 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

1x6mm flat bar for frame and 12 mm square bar..usually sa hardware store color coding na ang bakal..mas maganda kung mag dala ka ng caliper or any measuring tools..anyway eto yung mga grill na ginawa ko..


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Super tibay na nito bro bugel. Di na kayang pasukin kahit mag out of town ang may ari.

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Posted : 26/09/2014 11:00 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

1x6mm na flat bar ang ginawa kong frame saka 1x1x1.5mm at 3/4x3/4x1.5mm..

Eto namang huli kong ginawa puro square tubing na..sa loob naman naka mount ang grills..


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Posted : 26/09/2014 11:00 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

nice works sir bugel! is there a big price difference if ill go with 12mm bars or 1" square tubing? thanks!

 
Posted : 26/09/2014 11:55 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

I will probably settle for 10mm square bar and minimum sized flat bar.

This will be place inside the house instead of outside because the screen is currently placed outside.

Bugel, I your grille is similar to what I chose from the internet but I change my design to a simpler one.

BTW, any idea idea on the price of these metals. I just want initial idea before I go to a hardware.

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Posted : 27/09/2014 11:57 am
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

Excellent work bugel!

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Posted : 28/09/2014 3:27 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

Salamat bro papatoks,mig21 at angna..mas mahal ang square tube pero mas rust resistant naman ang square bar..kaya lang square tube ginamit ko dahil diretso sya unlike square bar di maiiwasan ang baluktot at pilipit..mahihirapan pa ako na mag pukpok sa pag diretso nyan.

Eto yung price comparison

Square bar 10mm-around 140 to 160
Flat bar 6mm- 250+

Square tube 1"x1.5- 300+
3/4x1.5-200+
Price depends in your suking hardware stores.

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Posted : 28/09/2014 4:13 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

thanks for the info sir bugel, i might go with 12mm square bar or 1" tube for the bigger windows. your avatar is a winner sir!

 
Posted : 28/09/2014 11:37 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

Salamat bro papatoks,mig21 at angna..mas mahal ang square tube pero mas rust resistant naman ang square bar..kaya lang square tube ginamit ko dahil diretso sya unlike square bar di maiiwasan ang baluktot at pilipit..mahihirapan pa ako na mag pukpok sa pag diretso nyan.

Eto yung price comparison

Square bar 10mm-around 140 to 160
Flat bar 6mm- 250+

Square tube 1"x1.5- 300+
3/4x1.5-200+
Price depends in your suking hardware stores.

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Yung flat bar sh 6mm thickness?

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Posted : 29/09/2014 6:37 am
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

Bugel mukang nakaweld din ba yun mga corners ng square tube. Linis ng corners pag mig yun gamit. No need to grind.

Mahirap mag grind ng corners pag arc welding ang gamit. Those corners must be sealed especially sa tubular gates. Diyan ang pinagmumulan ng rust.
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Posted : 29/09/2014 12:03 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

@ fourtheboys 6mm and 5mm pwede..
Bry..yep hininang ko rin ang corner sa square tube kasi dapat water tight kung hindi kakalawangin from inside out..

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Posted : 29/09/2014 9:44 pm
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Re: Right metal sizes for window grille?

Linis ng corners pag mig yun gamit. No need to grind.

Mahirap mag grind ng corners pag arc welding ang gamit.
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Bryant77,

If you have a die grinder and some carbide burrs, grinding and cleaning inside corners welded using
arc or stick machine will not be a problem any more. Compared with using an angle grinder which
cannot fit tight corners or spots. 😉

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