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Tungkol sa Palitada

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(@miked)
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Magandang araw mga kuya!

Magdadalawang buwan na pero busy pa rin daw yung suking karpintero nina erpats. kaya pagkakataon ko na rin ito siguro na matuto ng panibagong gawain.

Ang gagawin ay pagpapalitada ng mga konkretong poste at biga lang naman. finishing lang.

Ang mga tanong:

1. Ano ang mga materyales na kelangan bukod sa buhangin at semento?
2. Pagdating sa semento, anong yung eksaktong ginagamit sa palitada? yung regular portland lang ba?
3. Ano ang tamang paghahalo ng semento, buhangin at tubig?
4. May mga napanood na din akong nagpalitada sa tunay na buhay (bukod sa youtube hehehehe) pero baka may maisshare kayong mga diskarte sa paggawa neto
5. Wala pa akong mga tools na para dito kaya ano ba dapat bilhin ko?

Salamat muli PHM!

 
Posted : 25/05/2014 3:31 pm
horge
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Re: Tungkol sa Palitada

You mean old-skool pag-palitada?

1. tubig, trowel/kutsara, pala, float, guide line, plumb bob, a handful of concrete nails, piece of foam,
pail, and a straightedge.

2. I've indiscriminately used portland and pozzolan to fair result.

3. for every square meter of wall 10kg of cement, .02 cu.m. of sand; water varies with weather.

4. since you've already seen it being done, I'll just summarize:

Route and tie your guide line horizontally, vertically and diagonally through concrete nails set into
the wall, and use a plumb bob to ensure the lines form a vertical plane. Screen/grade dry sand.
Mix dry sand and cement thoroughly with your spade, forming it into a heap, then form a crater
in the middle. Add water into the crater and gradually collapse the crater walls until all the water
is absorbed by the dry components. Turn over and mix with the spade until you get a plaster
with something wetter than a chunky-damp consistency.

Wet the wall thoroughly. Mash a small portion of the plaster mix to obtain a wetter consistency,
and load up your trowel with it. Flick the plaster onto the wall until you have it mostly covered,
and let the mix sit for awhile (30 mins. or more, depending on the weather), then fling some
more plaster mix to build it up to roughly the thickness indicated by your guide line (it'll exceed
and fall short of the guide line, but you'll be able to fix that later). Leave it alone for 30 mins. or
so. With trowel and straightedge, gently scrape off all the plaster that protrudes beyond the
guidelines --what you scrape off should be collected for reuse (rewetted and mashed) for filling
in gaps, using the float. After an hour or more, carefully use the float, then a wetted sponge
to smooth out the plaster, with a gentle wiping motion, and then leave it alone 'til next day, or
if there's still daylight, at least a few hours, because reasons... best to remove the guide lines
and (gently) the concrete nails before that.

Wet the (plastered) wall slightly. Load up your trowel with dry cement powder, and then with an
upward, lightly-scraping motion, coat the wall with said powder, which should absorb and stick to
the damp. Repeat until the wall is covered. Use a slightly damp sponge to smoothen (some use a
broad paint brush, pero theirs-theirs 'yan) the work. Leave it alone for a day.

Break out the jackhammer to remove all your lousy work, and call a real mason to do it right.

5. see #1

 
Posted : 28/05/2014 6:25 am
violaine
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Re: Tungkol sa Palitada

"Break out the jackhammer to remove all your lousy work, and call a real mason to do it right."

--oi miked, me jackhammer kaba? back up daw sabi ni bro Jorge in case batukan ka ni SWMBO sa trabaho mo...LOL

cheers! I-DIY mo na yan!

update us soon!

The devil will find work for idle hands to do.-Morrissey

 
Posted : 28/05/2014 6:36 am
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Re: Tungkol sa Palitada

Break out the jackhammer to remove all your lousy work, and call a real mason to do it right.

Napalunok ako bigla dito ah. wag naman sana ako umabot dito. haha

ok lang siguro kung lousy, at least may rason na naman para bumili ng bagong tools (jackhammer/demolition hammer):p

 
Posted : 28/05/2014 7:45 am
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Re: Tungkol sa Palitada

di na matutuloy ang project na ito gawa ng nagpakita bigla yung karpintero....dahil nagkatagpo kami sa hardware store at nakita nya akong namimili ng gamit pangpalitada (trowel, nylon cord, etc.). hahaha!.....siguro paimportante rin sya dahil sa akala nyang walang nang nakakaalam (dito sa household namin) na magpalitada. wala nga may alam pero may willing naman na sumubok.

anyway, para may gamit yung nabili kong tools e may bakod pa naman tsaka may storage area pa naman na pwede ko subukan...update ko na lang tong thread kung sakali magawa ko na iyon.

 
Posted : 02/06/2014 9:21 pm
rosy
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Re: Tungkol sa Palitada

bro miked,

Kung desidido ka sa task, go ahead and do it, its not really that hard and complicated. You will have to make a wooden paleta with handle, that is where you will put your scooped concrete mix to spread on
the wall you will plaster, Don't forget pala to have a long straight edge, you will use this to see your plaster all flat, hindi baku bako.

OK we will wait for your updates.

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Posted : 03/06/2014 10:59 pm
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Re: Tungkol sa Palitada

noted ka rosy ang wooden palet tsaka mahabang straight edge....yun ang wala pa ako. btw ang immediate task at hand e yung pagtanggal ng lumang tiles sa kusina.

ang meron lang ako e sinsil tsaka martilyo...how i wish may demolition hammer. kahit yung mumurahin lang.

 
Posted : 04/06/2014 9:08 pm
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Re: Tungkol sa Palitada

you can use FLAT Sharp Edge Chisel to remove tiles mabilis lang yan.

 
Posted : 05/06/2014 11:15 am
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