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 Neo
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Hi guys,

I need your advice, suggestions and information on wood planks for a concrete stairs.

What kind of wood to use (and alternatives)?
What's the minimum required thickness?
Price?
Contractor (and contact info)?
How are these wood planks installed?
How are the wood planks prepared prior to installation?
What kind of stains is best?

Basically I would be needing:
9 pcs rectangular wood planks of 0.9m x 0.2m dimensions
4 pcs triangular wood planks of 0.95m(triangle height) x 0.95 (triangle base)

My concrete stairs would look like the pix below.

Any info would be highly appreciated. Not necessarily the answers to all my questions above.

Thanks,
Neo

 
Posted : 09/04/2011 1:04 am
 guad
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Re: Wood Planks for Concrete Stairs

Wood: Usually, 'tanguile' commonly found in stores.

Alternatives that will require more research/resourcefulness on your part:
Hardwoods like guijo, molave, yakal, narra -- usually higher cost unless reclaimed
Softwood like pine -- lower durability
Softwood like 'palochina' -- lower cost, lower durability
Bamboo -- more environment-friendly, especially if locally produced
No wood, just concrete with suitable coatings (round the edges with a grinder or put some kind of edge protector)

Material cost can be estimated by the number of 'board feet' required multiplied by cost per board-foot, which is about P70/bft for kiln-dried S4S in big hardware stores nowadays. Board feet is W x H x L / 12, W and H in nominal inches, L in feet.

Usually two inch nominal thickness, but no strict rule. If your concrete steps, in particular the first and last, were not designed with a two inch wood tread in mind, the first and last step heights (rises) might not equal the other heights after tread installation, resulting in a tripping hazard, as people expect consistent rises. If the diagram represents concrete only without tread, it looks like there was no such provision.

In the diagram, the rise and run are both 0.20 m (abnormally high and low, respectively). So the slope is 45 degrees (abnormally steep). How did the diagram come up with 38.66 degrees?

Glue or epoxy, but countersunk nails or screws will make the treads easier to remove/replace. How about velcro?

 
Posted : 10/04/2011 10:53 am
 Neo
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Re: Wood Planks for Concrete Stairs

Wood: Usually, 'tanguile' commonly found in stores.

Alternatives that will require more research/resourcefulness on your part:
Hardwoods like guijo, molave, yakal, narra -- usually higher cost unless reclaimed
Softwood like pine -- lower durability
Softwood like 'palochina' -- lower cost, lower durability
Bamboo -- more environment-friendly, especially if locally produced
No wood, just concrete with suitable coatings (round the edges with a grinder or put some kind of edge protector)

Material cost can be estimated by the number of 'board feet' required multiplied by cost per board-foot, which is about P70/bft for kiln-dried S4S in big hardware stores nowadays. Board feet is W x H x L / 12, W and H in nominal inches, L in feet.

Usually two inch nominal thickness, but no strict rule. If your concrete steps, in particular the first and last, were not designed with a two inch wood tread in mind, the first and last step heights (rises) might not equal the other heights after tread installation, resulting in a tripping hazard, as people expect consistent rises. If the diagram represents concrete only without tread, it looks like there was no such provision.

In the diagram, the rise and run are both 0.20 m (abnormally high and low, respectively). So the slope is 45 degrees (abnormally steep). How did the diagram come up with 38.66 degrees?

Glue or epoxy, but countersunk nails or screws will make the treads easier to remove/replace. How about velcro?

Salamat, Sir Guad.

I think the 38.86 degrees was based on the run length of 0.25m, and not 0.20m.

You're right, sir. There was no provision for wood tread in the design. So there wouldn't be wood planks on the 1st and 14th step. Is it ok to use a 3/4- or 1-inch thick wood planks?

Palochina? I guess if there is very light traffic (e.g. 3 people living in the house), softwood like palochina would do.

Velcro? The same kind used in fabric?

 
Posted : 10/04/2011 6:50 pm
 guad
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Re: Wood Planks for Concrete Stairs

I think 0.25 m is called the 'tread depth' not run length, which is 0.2 m. Rise and run are measured between the 'same point' on consecutive steps. While you can compute the angle corresponding to rise/tread-depth instead of rise/run, it doesn't seem meaningful or useful. As an exaggerated example, imagine a tread depth of 0.4 m with the same run length of 0.2 m. The computed angle would drop to about 27 deg but the stairs would still have a steep 45 deg slope.

Not clear what you mean by 'no planks on the 1st and 14th step' but if you omit a plank, that would seem strange and would only shift the inconsistent rise(s) to a different step. No easy/obvious solution I can think of, other than minimizing the tread thickness to minimize the inconsistent rises on first and last steps.

 
Posted : 12/04/2011 12:51 am
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Re: Wood Planks for Concrete Stairs

this stairs are from the model unit (delivered) for Oakwood Carmona....ask ko lang...do you have encountered unusual thing on the house that you acquired?...quality wise....

Plano ko sa stairs na yan is total changed...kasi magbabago ang steps from the
ground...parang alanganin....

cheers......:thanks:

 
Posted : 25/05/2011 9:22 pm
bmac
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Re: Wood Planks for Concrete Stairs

Narra is good. like what we have in our house.

 
Posted : 26/05/2011 7:29 pm
 Neo
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Re: Wood Planks for Concrete Stairs

this stairs are from the model unit (delivered) for Oakwood Carmona....ask ko lang...do you have encountered unusual thing on the house that you acquired?...quality wise....

Plano ko sa stairs na yan is total changed...kasi magbabago ang steps from the
ground...parang alanganin....

cheers......:thanks:

Hi pareng brinck! Nandito ka din pala. Musta na ang house mo? Parang hindi pa yata start ng renovation nung dumaan ako last week. Iyong unit ni Miss A, wala pa ding renovation yata.

I will be accepting my unit this Friday (second inspection). Then renovation hopefully late next week, pag naayos ng renovation contractor ang mga permits sa Carmona.

Di ko pa alam kung ano gagawin ko sa stairs ko. Hindi muna sya top priority. Malaki laki kasi magagastos ko sa extensions and tiling. Kung isasabay ko kasi ang wooden stair treads, palochina or crate wood lang ang papasok sa budget. Though may nakausap ako sa Carmona na palochina furniture maker na pedeng gumawa ng stair treads. Mas makitid iyong mga palochina planks from crate, and he would use glue and TNG jointing para lumapad iyong planks. Pipili din daw sya ng kiln dried na pieces. May mga stamped codes pala iyong mga crate wood na iyon.

Baket nga pala total change ang gagawin mo sa stairs mo? At baket magbabago ang steps from the ground?

 
Posted : 16/11/2011 8:57 pm
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Re: Wood Planks for Concrete Stairs

Well fantastic idea i really appreciate to you about this not a bad, but you have decreased my problem , i was afraid about the wood planks. very nice dude

 
Posted : 30/11/2011 8:46 pm
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