We recently had our water lines replaced due to old age. I was thinking of installing a Water Filter/Sediment Filter. Around how much does this cost? How often does it need to replace the filter?
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We recently had our water lines replaced due to old age. I was thinking of installing a Water Filter/Sediment Filter. Around how much does this cost? How often does it need to replace the filter?
When we installed a central filtration system in our house I had to submit a water sample for testing just to know what sort problems we may have w/ our water source (MWSS). The type of tests we did were for Sedimentary screening, Soluble chemical test and lastly, Bacterial Test to check if there are serious contaminants that may affect our health. Even though the water from MWSS had been filtered and chlorinated you'd be surprised at what we saw w/ the results. We had soluble iron that made the water smell and taste funny. We also had sedimentation issues so we opted to use a 2-stage filter that will screen @ 10microns for the 1st stage and 5 microns at the kitchen or point of use where we get our drinking and cooking water. Then i bought a UV-light water system strong enough to kill the bacteria that may cause serious sickness like diarrhea and amoebiasis just in case contamination happens. This may sound overkill but it still came out cheaper than setting up a water softener or reverse osmosis system. Why so? Well it's because we only worked on the real and present problem of our water. If your water supply has other issues like brackish or hardness type then that's the only time you should go for the more complexed system. Even if you just want to keep it down to a simple Sedimentary filtration system the soluble chemicals in the water may wind up eating or destroying the filter membranes if you don't know what your dealing with in the first place. The frequent change of the cartridges may be costly in the end for you if you don't know what type of filter media or membrane to use. Bottom line, water test first then decide the system based on this test. When we set this up back in early 2000, I was quoted 200k for the softener and 350k for the reverse osmosis. My set up only cost me 50K including the UV Filtration machine. I've never bought water from H2O stations ever since nor did we get sick from water contamination problems. Hope this helps.:)
Re: Water Filter for main water line
Adding filtration will also restrict water flow... I hope you know what you plan to get into. Goodluck.
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Re: Water Filter for main water line
If I would have to do this, the main H2O line will have no filter due to flow/pressure problems. Water filtration of the proper type (based on a water analysis/study) installed for the kitchen + drinking water. Bathing, washing should be OK w/o any kind of filtration unless e.g., Cebu City, the water is very hard etc.,
Re: Water Filter for main water line
willy,
Thanks for the heads up regarding the water analysis. Makes great sense. Where can I have our tap water tested? I would prefer it not to be done by a company that sells water filters to avoid bias.
timber,
the filter will be placed before the pump. theoretically yes it will restrict water flow. Hence the pump. Would there be adverse effects?
Re: Water Filter for main water line
willy,
Thanks for the heads up regarding the water analysis. Makes great sense. Where can I have our tap water tested? I would prefer it not to be done by a company that sells water filters to avoid bias.
timber,
the filter will be placed before the pump. theoretically yes it will restrict water flow. Hence the pump. Would there be adverse effects?
There are several types of filter media that are designed for specific application. If you want a point of use then the poly-spun fibers will work better for you. They usually come in 20,10,5 and 1 micron mesh or screening size. The designer of the system should be knowledgable on matters of flow rate or water pressure systems so he may recommend a suitable size and type of filter that won't disrupt the normal flow of your water source. I used to work w/ a company called Eurowater systems here in the Philippines before i went into wood working. This company is the one w/c filters and recycles the water of SEA WORLD in the US and other parts of the Globe. That's about 2,000,000 gallons of sea water they recycle daily. I was the one who helped set up the Calauan Plant of Purefoods in !995 and till now they have no issues whatsoever w/ their system. Before we came into the picture the mortality rate of their livestock was 20% and after the system was installed it went down to 2% due to natural causes nalang. Some companies will try to sell you their equipment but not the solution to your problem so be careful w/ these water companies that carry complex systems and multiple stages equipment. By the way, I am no longer in the water equipment business and the company i used to bring my tests sample to is DAMIAN LABORATORY in Mayon st. near Rotonda area in QC. Try to look them up in the yellow pages or Google them. I'm sure there are other private lab testing facilities available w/in your reach.
Re: Water Filter for main water line
filters are placed after the pump(discharge side) but you need a strainer before the pump suction
Installing the filter before the pump suction. it will accumulate larger things then you have to replace the filter often.
And, the pump will not perform properly due to loss of head
Cheers
willy,
Thanks for the heads up regarding the water analysis. Makes great sense. Where can I have our tap water tested? I would prefer it not to be done by a company that sells water filters to avoid bias.
timber,
the filter will be placed before the pump. theoretically yes it will restrict water flow. Hence the pump. Would there be adverse effects?
hello guys. i will just continue this thread since i am also in the process of installing a reverse osmosis system with a pressure tank in the house. i have to order the system from US (about $280) including sea freight to Cebu City. 🙂 i was just looking for wqa certified systems.
it will be installed under sink and will have its own faucet with a T connector to the hot/cold water dispenser (switched on via water valve). the sink will be used for cooking, washing vegetables and making ice. i was toying the idea of having the house filtered for the automatic washing machine and shower heater but i suppose it's not a priority at the moment.
my ideal setup would have a ref with built in input for the filtered water line and a built in hot/cold water dispenser but i think it's not yet being made. hehehe. i only saw one with cold dispenser but you still have to manually fill the tank.
Buy yourself two Aqua pure water filter kit model Cyst-ff and install it in series and you will have a nice water filter system, Each filter is designed to filtered 2,000 gallons of water times 2 that will give you 4,000 gallons. that's equivalent to 72 drums of water.
hello guys. i will just continue this thread since i am also in the process of installing a reverse osmosis system with a pressure tank in the house. i have to order the system from US (about $280) including sea freight to Cebu City. 🙂 i was just looking for wqa certified systems.
it will be installed under sink and will have its own faucet with a T connector to the hot/cold water dispenser (switched on via water valve). the sink will be used for cooking, washing vegetables and making ice. i was toying the idea of having the house filtered for the automatic washing machine and shower heater but i suppose it's not a priority at the moment.
my ideal setup would have a ref with built in input for the filtered water line and a built in hot/cold water dispenser but i think it's not yet being made. hehehe. i only saw one with cold dispenser but you still have to manually fill the tank.
Wow! This is a good project of yours. Very much looking forward for you to turn this into a reality.
My plan is just a simple 3 stage whole house water filter system -- Ceramic/Sediment filter (1) at the garage before entering the inside water line. Then GAC/Activated Carbon (2) and Carbon Block (3) filters will have a dedicated line with faucet in the kitchen for the drinking water. Outside I still have a faucet with unfiltered water for cleaning, etc.
Planning to use 2.5x20" for the sediment filter or perhaps the big blue (4.5") since it will filter all the water inside the house will be filtered by it while 2.5x10" for the other 2 filters since it will be used exclusively to filter the drinking water.
So far i have set up the pipe in the garage where i will install the sediment filter [no budget yet for the filters!]. I saw Megafresh and Westinghouse on Ace and DIY Shop. Any suggestions which brands to buy. :thanks:
Wow! This is a good project of yours. Very much looking forward for you to turn this into a reality.
My plan is just a simple 3 stage whole house water filter system -- Ceramic/Sediment filter (1) at the garage before entering the inside water line. Then GAC/Activated Carbon (2) and Carbon Block (3) filters will have a dedicated line with faucet in the kitchen for the drinking water. Outside I still have a faucet with unfiltered water for cleaning, etc.
Planning to use 2.5x20" for the sediment filter or perhaps the big blue (4.5") since it will filter all the water inside the house will be filtered by it while 2.5x10" for the other 2 filters since it will be used exclusively to filter the drinking water.
So far i have set up the pipe in the garage where i will install the sediment filter [no budget yet for the filters!]. I saw Megafresh and Westinghouse on Ace and DIY Shop. Any suggestions which brands to buy. :thanks:
That's nice. Yes, I think it's ideal to get even a sediment filter from the meter to the house. I guess it will prolong the lives of our water heaters and washing machines. I think that will be my next project after the RO drinking water system.
As to the brand, I have no idea and it seems we cant find any reviews of that brand here. My suggestion is get a TDS meter (about Php 500 in lazada) and just measure the filtered water if it fits your criteria. 🙂
That's nice. Yes, I think it's ideal to get even a sediment filter from the meter to the house. I guess it will prolong the lives of our water heaters and washing machines. I think that will be my next project after the RO drinking water system.
As to the brand, I have no idea and it seems we cant find any reviews of that brand here. My suggestion is get a TDS meter (about Php 500 in lazada) and just measure the filtered water if it fits your criteria. 🙂
Agree! Getting a TDS meter is a good idea. Did a quick searched in Lazada decided to settle for the Xiaomi brand. Already added to my wishlist. Cheers!
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Re: Water Filter for main water line
When we installed a central filtration system in our house I had to submit a water sample for testing just to know what sort problems we may have w/ our water source (MWSS). The type of tests we did were for Sedimentary screening, Soluble chemical test and lastly, Bacterial Test to check if there are serious contaminants that may affect our health. Even though the water from MWSS had been filtered and chlorinated you'd be surprised at what we saw w/ the results. We had soluble iron that made the water smell and taste funny. We also had sedimentation issues so we opted to use a 2-stage filter that will screen @ 10microns for the 1st stage and 5 microns at the kitchen or point of use where we get our drinking and cooking water. Then i bought a UV-light water system strong enough to kill the bacteria that may cause serious sickness like diarrhea and amoebiasis just in case contamination happens. This may sound overkill but it still came out cheaper than setting up a water softener or reverse osmosis system. Why so? Well it's because we only worked on the real and present problem of our water. If your water supply has other issues like brackish or hardness type then that's the only time you should go for the more complexed system. Even if you just want to keep it down to a simple Sedimentary filtration system the soluble chemicals in the water may wind up eating or destroying the filter membranes if you don't know what your dealing with in the first place. The frequent change of the cartridges may be costly in the end for you if you don't know what type of filter media or membrane to use. Bottom line, water test first then decide the system based on this test. When we set this up back in early 2000, I was quoted 200k for the softener and 350k for the reverse osmosis. My set up only cost me 50K including the UV Filtration machine. I've never bought water from H2O stations ever since nor did we get sick from water contamination problems. Hope this helps.:)[IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"custom","src":"http://pinoyhandyman.com/core/image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw=="}[/IMG2]
Thanks for sharing this much information on this
It helps me a lot and hopefully will help others too in the process of installation of reverse osmosis system
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The main water filter can improve your source. There are many types of sratas to choose from, but the price is very suitable.