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This is a cheap and not so hot / warm welding jacket. I know it's fire retardant too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Miller-X-Large-244752-Cloth-Welding-Jacket-Industrial-/330828424401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d06e924d1

There are more expensive leather ones but IMO the cloth ones suit our weather better.

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what about this mishap a few weeks ago while modifying my miter saw cabinet!

photo taken at 15 minutes post injury..well coaptated wound with an area of "pasa" or hematoma a few centimeters in front of the laceration..the reason for this is the small blood vessels called capillaries have bursted and blood escaped from them into the tissues.

photo below after 2 hours..blood clot through the entire laceration is already dry but still very fragile.

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OUCH, OUCH, OUCH, that is quite a long cut my friend, did you applied some antiseptic or terramycin antibiotic ointment on the wound ?? Hope you did so it won't get infected and would heal fast.

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I had to do some quick touchups on an elevated steel walkway a few days ago,
frying ordinary 6013 rods with the Yamato DC set to about 190...

I forgot to bundle up properly.
my neck (where exposed, between the ADH and my t-shirt) is real tender right
now, after less than 30 minutes or so of welding. It's worse over on my right, or
closest to where the electrode holder was employed.

Now, the photo from yesterday doesn't look so bad...

But it's been tender for a few days now, and besides:
The point is that it took less than 30 minutes to get this Pinoy's skin reddened,
and I don't burn easily (I'm quite accustomed to long exposure at jobsites, and
I hardly use sunblock at the beach). It's only started to brown-over today.

Yes, it was stupid to expose myself to that much UV, especially since I do tend
to get up-close-and-personal when welding, so I thought I'd post this to remind
the PHM brethren (and any sisters) to be more careful than I was.

Cheers,
h.

Well bro you'll be fine soon, hehehe, ang sarap kamutin yan ano ?? Anyway I've had my similar experience before and much worst, sometimes I would take for granted wearing a long sleeves and just do welding only in a sando during summer and I would burn my lower neck too and both the whole shoulders and biceps, 😮

I know its such a stupid thing to do and really learned from it though. The skin burn lasted for a week and it was really very uncomfortable and sort of itchy. :rolleyes::whistle:

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This is a cheap and not so hot / warm welding jacket. I know it's fire retardant too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Miller-X-Large-244752-Cloth-Welding-Jacket-Industrial-/330828424401?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d06e924d1

That looks nice Jay, thanks.
I usually wear an old cotton longsleeved shirt backwards, with the collar turned-up
to protect my throat, but my go-to shirt was in the laundry, and I stupidly thought
"I'll only be welding for 5 minutes, tops".

Well bro you'll be fine soon, hehehe, ang sarap kamutin yan ano ?? Anyway I've had my similar experience before and much worst, sometimes I would take for granted wearing a long sleeves and just do welding only in a sando during summer and I would burn my lower neck too and both the whole shoulders and biceps, 😮

The itching has deffo set in here. Can't wait to play the old kids' game of trying to peel
the old skin off in one sheet, lol.

what about this mishap a few weeks ago while modifying my miter saw cabinet!

How exactly did you get that, v.? Blow by blow account naman, hehe.
(Also, post update photos when the area turns blue-green, and then yellow. :p )

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@horge and rosy,

haha! i have posted the same pics right after injury before in the other site with the thread entitled..."show your recent tool loot..err..mishaps" hehe

for clean wounds like these, i dont apply anything except wash it with soap and water..and wait till a blood clot is formed (normally, after a small wound like these, a blood clot will form between 3-7 minutes, its actually a test in the lab, so called clotting time)..

no bandage or whatsover cause i wanted the clot to dry and try no to disturb it until 24 hours when the wound is completely sealed by the clot and the clot is now stable.

and no antitetanus shots...since i injured myself with an object that is very much exposed to air..well you know the tetanus bacteria would not love to be living in an atmosphere with at least 21 percent oxygen (exactly the air that you are breathing)..it means these nasty bacteria are deep in the ground..so unless the wound is contaminated with soil or anything that is deep beneath the ground can be potentially carrying tetanus bacteria and so you need some shots.

again for these clean wounds...that same blood clot is enough to protect it from germs...no need for antiseptics...contrary to popular belief, iodine (betadine) can have bad effects on healing wounds..it can actually disturb the clot and make it fresh again..so literally, iodine makes the wound to go back to zero...well iodine is a powerful antiseptic..an applied before they cut you up for some surgical operations..but unless you have a dirty looking wound, there is no need for it.

in fact, when i do circumcisions, i suture the clean incised skin and cover it lightly with sterile gauze and wait for 24 hours then i let the boy take a bath and remove any dressing...its sealed..no need for antibiotics or anything..

sorry i wasnt able to document when my wound turned yellow, usually around 4-6 days but what i have documented is when the scab is already peeling and that is around 8 days, and yes it becomes so itchy...but let the scab falls naturally, otherwise, if you lift it earlier, it will bleed again and back to zero.

three months is all you need for complete healing and wound strength...although, the strength is about 80% only...never 100%.

and during the healing process, you need some building materials as well..you need adequate nutrition especially foods rich in Vitamin C..which promotes the twisting of the three filaments of collagen, for wound strength and elasticity.

well that is a short lecture on wound healing... a major topic in 2nd year medicine proper. hehe

good morning! be safe guys.

V

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Safety is Everybody's Concern.

Good thread here ... it promotes awareness on the importance of this subject in our chosen hobbies and crafts.

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Some online resources on the dangers of exposure to shielded metal arc welding (SMAW) radiation,
specifically UV-B and UV-C radiation:

[COLOR="Blue"]Arc welding and the risk of cancer

[COLOR="blue"]How Arc Discharge Affects Health

According to the first link, and by US Army standards (1976), even domestic-type SMAW units at 100A
can impose more than the daily (24 hour) safety-threshold of UV exposure, in just 1 minute of welding,
even at a distance of over 3 meters from the electrode. Granted, Pinoys are used to a far harsher daily
exposure to the sun, but if just a minute of welding exceeds a threshold of 'safe exposure', then it is no
joke, and we need proper protection. UV damage can be cumulative, and manifest badly as we all grow
older: skin cancer ang landing natin if we do not cover-up properly when we arc-weld. We also need to
keep our loved ones well-away from exposure to the welding arc-light, since they are even LESS likely to
be wearing proper protective gear.

h.

PS: according to the first link, stick-welding aluminum presets the greatest UV-overexposure risk.

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i will check if somebody already locally has made a research related to SMAW and incidence of skin cancer among pinoy welders.

so bakal boys! beware!

V

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Naku big problem ito sa Mig Welding and Tig din.

It is very difficult to weld kung super balot na balot ng jacket, helmet, bandana, respirator, long gloves etc... problem is mainit ang weather natin and you can't even turn on the electric fan while welding as it interferes with the gas flow and messes up the welds.

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@ Bro JayL,

OH well I guess for Mig, there's a way out, divert to using FCAW for the mean time or do welding during the night up to early morning when it is cooler. And for Tig, maybe a small fan under the table directed to the welder.

That's really the problem with MIG or TIG when using CO2 or Argon gas.

@ v,

Let's hope all the bakal boys here would always remember safety attire and other PPEs for protection from exposure to IR/UV rays while welding or doing some metal fabs.

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@ Bro JayL,

OH well I guess for Mig, there's a way out, divert to using FCAW for the mean time or do welding during the night up to early morning when it is cooler. And for Tig, maybe a small fan under the table directed to the welder.

That's really the problem with MIG or TIG when using CO2 or Argon gas.

@ v,

Let's hope all the bakal boys here would always remember safety attire and other PPEs for protection from exposure to IR/UV rays while welding or doing some metal fabs.

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Bro Rosy ... the small fan under the welding table might be a good idea. Actually as long as the wind is not directed to the gun and arc then it just might do the trick and cool down the weldor a bit.

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Yeah, it is very possible specially when using Tig when the welder is always close to the welding table and sitting down on a chair or stool.