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Re: Welding Newbie

Metal price as of today 😀

@Jay,
how much is Nihonweld 6013 3.2mm 5kg in your favorite hardware store?
got mine for Php400 for 5kg. pls see pic below.

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Posted : 16/02/2011 6:18 pm
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Re: Welding Newbie

made the overhead bracket storage for incoming metal and for left over long metal.
builds came from scrap and available metal on-hand.

[COLOR="Blue"]Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Use the right tool for the right job!

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 6:40 pm
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Re: Welding Newbie

Metal price as of today 😀

@Jay,
how much is Nihonweld 6013 3.2mm 5kg in your favorite hardware store?
got mine for Php400 for 5kg. pls see pic below.

I think you paid 700 pesos. Naka box ba yang nabili mo?

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Posted : 16/02/2011 6:46 pm
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@jay,
yes, its in the box.
what we bought in Pasay is the 6013 2.5mm rod, Php700/5kg.
just want to know if the price is also the same.

they (my favorite hardware store) dont have 6013 2.55mm rod

I think you paid 700 pesos. Naka box ba yang nabili mo?

[COLOR="Blue"]Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Use the right tool for the right job!

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:05 pm
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@jay,
yes, its in the box.
what we bought in Pasay is the 6013 2.5mm rod, Php700/5kg.
just want to know if the price is also the same.

they (my favorite hardware store) dont have 6013 2.55mm rod

Ah ok. Wiill call and check .

So the smaller rod is more expensive.

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:09 pm
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maybe coz Ryobi bought the 6013 2.5mm for Php600 /5kg at Binondo.
i dont know about the 3.2mm rod size, if its also the same price around Php700 /5kg, we have cheaper price here in my place.

Ah ok. Wiill call and check .

So the smaller rod is more expensive.

[COLOR="Blue"]Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Use the right tool for the right job!

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:13 pm
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Re: Welding Newbie

So what's good about the 6013 2.5mm against the 3.2mm that it should cost almost double the price?

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Posted : 16/02/2011 7:22 pm
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@jay,
i think its same thing, just the size differs. lemme check hehehe

So what's good about the 6013 2.5mm against the 3.2mm that it should cost almost double the price?

[COLOR="Blue"]Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Use the right tool for the right job!

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:24 pm
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made the overhead bracket storage for incoming metal and for left over long metal.
builds came from scrap and available metal on-hand.

Huh what incoming metal? Did you purchase new?

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:36 pm
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Re: Welding Newbie

from Nihonweld website:

for 6013 3.2mm N-44A
http://www.nihonweld.com/products.do?item_id=15215

Characteristics:25% less smoke compared to to other brands
Easy slag removal
East to handle and manipulate
Strong and durable welding deposits
25% less spatterings compared to other brands
Beautiful and shiny rippled bead for nice finish
Easy to ignite and instantaneous re-ignite

for 6013 2.5mm - SPECIAL N-6013 - they are categorized as special rod.
http://www.nihonweld.com/products.do?item_id=15224

Characteristics:
SMOKE and ODORLESS
FEW and FINE SPATTERINGS
STEADY and SMOOTH ARC
SELF REMOVING SLAG reduces cleaning time
STRONG and HIGH QUALITY WELD METAL properties

[COLOR="Blue"]Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Use the right tool for the right job!

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:40 pm
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yes, its in the sales invoice, re: metal price update hehehe my big bro wants to have a storage for his room

Huh what incoming metal? Did you purchase new?

[COLOR="Blue"]Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Use the right tool for the right job!

 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:43 pm
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yes, its in the sales invoice, re: metal price update hehehe my big bro wants to have a storage for his room

Ah Ok. I thought you found good junk metal again. New I can always buy from New Compact here.

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Posted : 16/02/2011 8:09 pm
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Re: Welding Newbie

Maybe the metal drilling skills are improving a bit. Proper speed computations, proper drill bit choice, proper pressure, proper pilot hole size etc...

The shavings look better now ....

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 17/02/2011 8:19 pm
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Re: Welding Newbie

Do you guys have a good technique how to avoid the weld crater at the end of the weld run?

Here's another run. Crater is smaller but still there.

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 18/02/2011 3:50 pm
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Re: Welding Newbie

@jay,
you can try the ff, and lets also wait for others advise.
- try to decrease your amperage setting
- maintain good arc distance before you lift the rod, and lift it quick
- stop before the metal edge

ang ganda na nag pagkaka welding mo hehe

Do you guys have a good technique how to avoid the weld crater at the end of the weld run?

[COLOR="Blue"]Putting two pieces of metal together so they stay together - Bigote
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Use the right tool for the right job!

 
Posted : 18/02/2011 6:41 pm
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