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stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

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(@oakley)
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madali lang ba matuto ng stick welding? balak ko bumili nung murang welder para DIY na lang ang welding ko para sa mga projects ko. nagbabasa ko sa mga "how to" websites eh, mukhang hindi naman masyado mahirap, kelangan lang ng practice. ano ba masasabi nyo guys?

 
Posted : 22/04/2008 6:47 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

Hi oakley. The answer to your question is "No, not really". It does however take practice, not that I'm expert. Sure do read as much as you can. There is lots of stuff on the Internet. At the end of the day, it is all about practice.

Make sure to have the right safety equipment. Some professional welders use dark glasses instead of a mask or just close their eyes - don't do it. Buy mask and welding gloves, seriously. I myself also try to get myself to wear safety glasses or a face shield, over which the welding mask goes. Those dark spots you see on a pro's face, and even eyes, are from the hot black stuff covering a new weld that tends to shatter as a weld cools. Safety first.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying don't do it. Welding is a lot of fun and it can save you a bundle if you do enough of it. Just be careful. Do the homework, and stay safe.

 
Posted : 28/04/2008 7:34 am
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

You are referring to electric arc welding, quite easy once you get the hang of it........just be careful in tapping onto your mains. Welders mask is a must lest you want sore eyes. HTH!

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Posted : 29/04/2008 9:26 am
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

i've decided to buy a second hand MIG (GMAW) welding machine. mas mahal kesa sa mga brand new na stick (SMAW) welding machines pero according sa research ko ay mas madaling matutunan ito at lower ang cost ng mga consumables. mas versatile pati ang range ng thickness ng materials na pwede pag-gamitan. diko pa nagagamit kasi kelangan pa mag-setup ng 110volts na outlet sa amin. this week siguro magagamit ko na. bumili nrin ako ng leather welding gloves tsaka yung prang goggles.

 
Posted : 06/05/2008 8:07 am
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

Good for you Oakley. I heard the same thing that MIG is easier. Also you can get Class A results if you use an inert gas shroud, more expensive to operate but you can perfectly weld metals you would normally not be able to.

TIG I'm told is the best in terms of versatility and performance however the cost is high, as is the skill requirements.

Bro, 110v? Be careful, welding machine draw a lot of power. A true 110v circuit would be best not that "wire in the earth approach".

Better if you have a mask and not just goggles. It would hurt terribly if a hot shard landed on your cheek.

 
Posted : 06/05/2008 1:33 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

just last week i've started practicing my welding on gauge 16 sheet metal. gumamit ako ng "arcoweld" shielding gas (from INGASCO) which is 80% argon and 20% co2. madali lang pala to gamitin pero sa mga certain types of joints mejo kelangan ko pa ng practice. wala naman masyado spatter kaya kahit goggles lang ang suot ko, di pa naman ako natitilamsikan. kaso, humapdi ang mukha ko the morning after. nakaka "sunburn" pala hindi ko alam. bibili na rin siguro ako ng mask. gusto ko sana yung auto-darkening na mask kaya lang medyo mahal at hindi kasya para sa budget ko sa current project ko ngayon. i'm using .8mm wire for mild steel. may flux cored wire din ako pero hindi ko pa nasusubukan.

 
Posted : 20/05/2008 12:43 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

You got sunburned because the arc gives off a tremendous amount of UV radiation, no kidding. If you were thinking of using just a regular face shield that might not do but I am not sure. Best of course is a real welding mask.

 
Posted : 20/05/2008 4:09 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

@ Oakley

Bro , how did you set up the 110 Volts power source?

Do you mind sharing how much you paid for the MiG Welder and what brand is it so we will have an idea.

tks

BTW : Lots of Mig welding info on this site :

http://weldingweb.com/forumdisplay.php?s=b9200ba6345561305d03e41086285fd4&f=2

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 13/10/2008 12:04 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

hi, sorry i've been quite busy this past year kaya ndi nako nakapag forum. we asked an electrician to connect to the ground line on the electric post in front of our house. I'm using a Lincoln Promig 135 weldger. I bought it 2nd hand for 20,000. If you look mig welding machines on the internet I think it's cheaper. The previous owner told me he bought it from the states and carried it with him on the plane trip home. Before I bought it, I looked for brand new MIG's being sold locally pero nasa mga 40k Php ang price. Siguro pang heavy duty. Ewan ko lang ngayon kung meron na mga available na mura. So far, ok naman ang performance nung machine. Tamang tama para sa sheet metal.

 
Posted : 21/01/2009 8:28 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

Maki sali sana ako - I'm interested with learning how to weld too. I saw a small MIG welder in Olongapo for 7.5k - one of those surplus shops. Hindi ko lang alam kung complete siya with parts and everything.

Now how do I start? What should I get MIG, TIG or ARC? I was thinking of MIG.
Oh yeah I checked out the other topic about stick welding - very informative makes me want to go out and buy a welder right away 🙂

 
Posted : 17/02/2009 5:43 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

Bro, I'm not an expert. I've only used arc though I dream of having a TIG welder some day. I've got my mind on TIG based on what I've read. MIG is easier but it is more expensive because of the wire feed. TIG is harder but more versatile and less expensive.

If you can afford it go with the MIG. No brainer daw ang MIG welding, very easy. Just put the head to the weld point and press the trigger. Arc startup is automatic, feed is automatic, arc maintenance is not an issue.

 
Posted : 18/02/2009 8:28 am
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

Bro, I'm not an expert. I've only used arc though I dream of having a TIG welder some day. I've got my mind on TIG based on what I've read. MIG is easier but it is more expensive because of the wire feed. TIG is harder but more versatile and less expensive.

If you can afford it go with the MIG. No brainer daw ang MIG welding, very easy. Just put the head to the weld point and press the trigger. Arc startup is automatic, feed is automatic, arc maintenance is not an issue.

Hmmm... Thanks there is an advertised oizito 90amp mig welder for 5k i think. OK na kaya yon? Is the Amperage rating of the arc welder just the same as a mig welder? Masyadong mahina kaya yung 90amps?

One more thing nakalagay gasless mig

 
Posted : 18/02/2009 5:46 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

Well it being gasless is why it is so cheap. It being Ozito is another. Personally, I don't like the Ozito brand. I'd rather pay a little more for a brand with higher quality.

I'm not really sure if gasless is OK. From what I've read the gas shield is what makes MIG and TIG welds so much better.

 
Posted : 19/02/2009 4:08 pm
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Re: stick welding: madali lang ba pag-aralan?

Well it being gasless is why it is so cheap. It being Ozito is another. Personally, I don't like the Ozito brand. I'd rather pay a little more for a brand with higher quality.

I'm not really sure if gasless is OK. From what I've read the gas shield is what makes MIG and TIG welds so much better.

Thanks got it!! I think I would just start with stick via a 160amp welder. Thanks for the advice

 
Posted : 19/02/2009 4:13 pm
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