Re: Mig welder inquiry

First of all what type of Mig weld process would you prefer, using the shielding gas or the fluxed cored process.

Using a Mig with a shielding gas wire produces clean welds, no more flux and less spatter. This is just perfect as well with thinner materials, but of course more expensive than a stick welder. You will still need a tankful of 75% argon gas with 25% co2 mixed. This can only be used inside the metal shop where there is no air or wind blowing to interfere with the shielding gas during welding applications.

Now using a MIG in a FUXCORED process produces flux on each finished welds that have to be chipped off like in stick welding. This process does not need any shielding gas so its cheaper than the former process, it can be used outside of the shop even on windy situations. This process is also good for thick wall materials. This is like similar to stick welding only on Mig mode.

Then if you are interested in a Mig welder, decide the budget on how much you are willing to spend since this machine is a lot more expensive than a stick welder machine. 🙁

Thanks bro rosy ... kinda interested in both flux cored and the one with shielding gas. I can see definite application for both process. I was wondering though about the appropriate amp capacity for us diy'ers. Is 150-160 amps enough? Is the gas mix of argon and co2 pre mixed in one tank or do they come in separate tanks?

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Re: Mig welder inquiry

Yes bro amboy, I myself would prefer knowing/learning both Mig processes and wouldn't just be pegged with only one process. If I can live with flux during stick welding process, I don't see any reason why I can't with the fluxcored process, and I believe its just part of welding.

Now for us DIYers, machine amperage from 100 up to 200 amps will be just perfectly fine since we are not naman into heavy structural application. These range of ampere requirements have different kinds of maximum thickness applications, like for example the lower amperage machine requires thinner walled materials in single pass but when exceeded the required thickness will now require multiple passes to achieve total weld fusion and penetration.

There is also a great advantage if we know already how to stick weld and the different techniques therein since it will be easier to learn how to use a Mig welder machine. It will appear very similar, only the mig will be easier and finer in terms of usage and applications. :cool01:

Oh by the way, the gas mix of argon and CO2 will just be one tank.

Tnx for the info bro. Rosy. May titignan nanaman ako sa t. Alonzo nito hehe. 😀 do you have any idea how much are the consumables like flux wire or solid wire and cost of the tank and gas?

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Re: Mig welder inquiry

Bro amboy, prices of wire consumables depends on the size of spool you will eventually use. Whether its 2 lbs, 5 lbs, 10 lbs or the 15lbs.

If you will use the fluxcored wire, you won't require a shielding gas, all you have to do is to reverse polarity of the weld machine. Anyway Mig weld machines have users manual as guide for first time users.

With regards to the gas and tank, I will be just be guessing here, its more than 5K +, depending on whether you will rent out the tank/cylinder or buy it, :dunno: so all you will have to think is the refill of the gas.

For steady and cheaper supply of wires you will use, check out sa sulit.com and look for JanMike, he is also a member of PHM and imports mig wires. His prices are indicated in his sulit account. Ask bro JayL as well since he is also selling small spools of Hobart solid mig wires. 😉

Ok tnx bro been reading up on bro jay's mig weld post also tnx

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Re: Mig welder inquiry

if your into it i'd say go for a miller or lincoln. millers auto set 180 is a superb choice for a diy. but if you want some juice get 250 amps with digital controls and lotsa auto features and it will settle you for years. but if budget is constrained i personally suggest (based on your requirements) to look for the weldcorp 160 that is sold by surplus imports shops. works fine as it is in stock but will squeeze a bit more with some additional add-on should you need it later on. now, if you just want a taste of it, cheaply, then go for a weldcorp mig 100, works neatly with a gasless wire. don't go for 90amps ozito or lower, welds bad even for gasless. For consumables, yours truly carries some of the hard to find needs of mig welders. so give me a shout here maybe i can help on your needs so you can help me with my needs too hehe 🙂 Goodluck and Cheers!

Re: Mig welder inquiry

HAHAHA, bro JanMike, most of us here would love to own Miller or Lincoln Migs, or perhaps Hobart or ESAB Mig welders, problem is prices of these brands are to steep for us DIYers, for noobs in mig applications, them brands may be the best but number one reason here is really the budget constraint, so I suppose what PHM members interested in this welding process should start with a bit more affordable machines that can deliver and function reasonably as a mig machine and again to serve as an entry level model ( just like with the case of the YAMATO DC machine purchase ) and just upgrade after one gets so accustomed on how to operate and apply good and decent weld beads.

The brand you mentioned could pass for an entry level but there are also other brands that will do as well, only I personally think amperage should start above the 100 amps coz this 100 amps are not really what the manufacturer rightfully indicates, I think it is still a 90 amp welder and just rounded up the number description. Anyway browsing the net for the brand you mentioned, there are also 120 amps available in the market now and if it was me, I will start with that ampere requirement for starter. It seems the WELDCORP brand will be fine and as well as the CIGWELD brand since this Cigweld brand is already under the THERMADYNE iNDUSTRIES, makers of the now famous THERMAL ARC Fabricator multi process weld machines.

Bro, thanks for your inputs on the matter, stay put there and sooner or later there will be an increase of MIG welder users here in the forum and I can see you will also play a part in that
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CHEERS and nice to have you around again !!! :cheers: :burp: :whistle:

Bro janmike and rosy

Thanks for the suggestions but right now a miller or hobart is out of the question until I really get my teeth into it hehe. Bro rosy is right about starting out with one of those lower end mig welders (aka affordable)... at least for a start that is 🙂 but thanks for the info about the consumables though 🙂

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Re: Mig welder inquiry

Hello people. Naimbitahan ako ni mr janmike na sumali daw dito sa forum... last year pa pala ako member, di lng nakaka bisita.

I used to work with industrial semi-automatic MIG na halo halo ang parts from Lincoln, Miller, Tweco Robotics... pero malalaki ang wires 3/32" for flux cored, 1/16" for MIG. Recently bumili ako ng maliit na Weldcorp 100 amp Flux Cored Welder, para ito sa mga DIY projects ko. Naubusan ako ng wire ang kakaorder ko lng from mr. Janmike. Ung initial use ko sa welder, ok naman cya kaya lng ung welds ko ang pangit... pero hindi ito fault ng machine, nag aadjust pa kasi ako sa maliit na wire, ung lens ko was too dark, di ko makita ung puddle.. anyway, after I receive the wires, I will try again and finish what I started.
So far, ok naman gamitin ung machine... may mga times na nakukuha ko ung tamang timpla at maganda ung labas... kaya nga lng, medyo bago pa ako sa mano-mano kaya need more practise pa. When I get to use the new wires, I hope to give a better review na...

Bro dearnobs try getting an auto darkening welding helmet it will improve your welding skills tremendously 🙂

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Re: Mig welder inquiry

Hello there bro deanorbs,

Yes I some how remember your username appearing once in a while before but not making post, perhaps just lurking around only. Well that is not important anymore, what's good is you finally made your first post. But can you please give us some introduction of yourself, you know, some information about your hobbies or things that interest you and keeps you busy during your spare time, like the DIYing stuffs. We would love to know you better as a members of this forum, being into metal working and welding.
Hey in your narration of your line of work, can you also tell us a bit about your usage of those semi-automatic industrial Migs, kinda interesting to hear about it. We have a Member Introductions, at the end of the PHM index page, its just below the GAZEBO Forum, you can do your intro there !!!

By the way since you purchased a WELDCORP 100 AMP gas/gasless MIG, can you please do /give a review of the machine, ok ba syang gamitin, does the machine produces nice and decent looking weld puddles, compared to the OZITO gas/gasless Mig in the market as well. ???

How is the machine holding up and is it worth buying or investing our money ? We'd love to know since there are several Arc, Tig and Mig weld machines available now in the market that are somewhat very affordable, you know those surpus welders from Australia. Since they are sort of cheap yet, it would be nice to purchase one with better or higher ampere requirements and start practicing with the new welding process.

We're kinda hungry for some new reviews here of any new machines or gadgets useful for us DIYers.

THANKS and CHEERS !!! :thanks: :studsmatta:

Re: Mig welder inquiry

Thanks for the welcome guys, once I get the wires, i will surely test the machine out. I originally wanted the Transmig 200i and was preparing my wallet to take the big hit, but then I changed my mind since the projects I had in mind right now do not really require very beautiful welds. So I bought the Weldcorp and a bunch of other tools! Yipeee! I only wish my welding skills were really good. 🙁

Re: Mig welder inquiry

Welcome to PHM bro deanorbs! your wire is on it's way. sorry it was a bit late. we ship kasi after office hours. yes please do some reviews with the weldcorp 100, i personally like it too. the last weldcorp mig100 i converted was impressive. but that was me as the seller, it's a lot better to hear what the users have to say. so we hope to hear from your review soon! again welcome! :cheers: