Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

there a lot of liquid stain @ your favorite hardware. ive just used the boysen wood stain...

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

If your interest is to mix with Lacquers then the best colorant or stain for you would be NGR stains or otherwise called Penetrating stains. There used to be powder based stains that can be mixed with lacquers but I doubt if you could find one now that easily. It all depends on how you approach finishing. Some use powder dyes or oil stains for their color base then apply sealers to lock the base color and then balance with NGR's mixed in to the sealer formula then topped with your choice of clear, semi-gloss, matte or dead flat top coat. Good luck!

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

Last Sunday I started "finishing" a project made of Palo China (dami ko pa nito from digital presses). Gusto ko itago ang pagka palo china so I want to cover the whole thing with color. But knowing this type of wood is very hard to stain because of the varying density I tried a different option this time.

Wala nang makitang jobos or powdered dye ngayon sa mga hardware so as a last resort I pulled all the remaining CISS inkjet ink from our printer, tutal bakasyon naman walang mga assigments para magamit ang printer. The Inkjet ink is waterbase UV DYE so i guess it will work so i mixed the yellow and magenta ang small amount of cyan to achieve deep brown color. Medyo naparami ang magenta kaya mapula ang resulta.

Here are the pics:

The palo china table

The UV DYE ink to be used:

Initial results:

There you go, you can see that stubborn talaga ang palo china even on dye but I guess maganda ito sa hardwood i Have some samples of dyed hardwood but forgot to took pictures of them but Im not giving up yet meron pang second coating sa weekend before i-seal. I'll be posting more pics when its done.

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

Uhmm..very resourceful ka sir armand..pwede pala yun..:bouncealt:

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

Using Food coloring to stain the wood is not bad according to this article I cut and pasted:

Adding Colorants: Common household colorants
Adding household dyeing agents or pigments to wood is generally the safest and easiest method for coloring wood, if you want to try non-standard procedures.

Strongly brewed coffee, applied cold to wood, imparts a solid brown cast to most species of wood. Let the coffee sit on the wood surface, with surface constantly wet, for about 10-15 minutes, then wipe thoroughly. Let the surface dry for several hours before applying any other finishes. Coffee that has sat at high (180F +) temperature for long periods of time or is several days old is oxidized and does not work well as a colorant. Freshly brewed, cold coffee works the best.

Since the color extends only a short distance into the wood, a protective clear coat, or even paste wax is recommended over a coffee stain. One really nice feature of coffee staining is that future coffee spills present no problem. Coffee is somewhat lightfast, but will not do for exterior use.

Fruit juices which are high in anthocyanins (purple color in grape juice) will stain wood, but the color pales rapidly to a tan or brown color. They are not recommended for staining.

To get really bright colors, food coloring works very well as a wood dye. The best substrate is a wood that is close to white, like white pine. This allows the color of the dye to show through more clearly without being altered by amber tones in the wood.

This method produces non-toxic, painfully bright colors for children's toys. Adding a clear coat of spray lacquer will improve durability as well as prevent color leakage onto children's hands. Clear lacquer is made from nitrocellulose, the same stuff as cellophane, and is completely edible when fully cured. Food colors are not lightfast, but will last for several years. Red and yellow fade the fastest.

Food colors are available in larger 4 oz jars, avoid the small plastic drop jars which are too expensive for this kind of application. Mix the dye about 5-6 parts water to 1 part food coloring and flood the wood surface for about five minutes. Work out of direct sunlight. Wipe the surface repeatedly to remove any residual dye that has not gone into the wood. After the surface dries overnight, attack it once more with rags to remove any light powdering of color that may remain.

To create secondary colors like orange and purple, mix primary food colors, just like we did back in first grade.

other woodworkers have used food colorant too: [COLOR="Blue"] http://www.scrollsawer.com/forum/wood-finishing-and-painting/16286.htm

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

Armand, so I take it you do scrollsaw work as well? As for the dye you chose, very ingenious... Cheers

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

Armand, so I take it you do scrollsaw work as well? As for the dye you chose, very ingenious... Cheers

Not yet Timber, still convincing myself by regularly visiting their webpage..confused pa rin if bandsaw or scrollsaw ang mauna.

Found today two stores that sells powdered dye for wood but need to check them this coming saturday. Medyo mahal kc ang inkjet dye ink.

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

Hi, Armand. Saw above that you could not find jobus.

I always find Jobus (Venus brand) in National bookstore, not in hardware stores. The last batch I got were from National at SM Marikina. Meron di siguro sa SM Masinag, kapitbahay mo.

They're very cheap so what I do is buy a whole batch of different colors.

Re: Color Stain/Dye for wood project

Uy salamat Balarila! No need to go to Divisoria or LG Atkimson sa Del Monte meron pala sa NBS.

So jobos is highend item na pala kaya wala na sa mga retail stores and hardwares. The remaining question is the lightfastness of this Venus brand jobos. Will still give it a try this wekend para matapos na ang mesa.

I also plan to use dye stain for the shoerack project via faux painting method on the drawer face.

Divisoria price for 300 grams industrial grade wood dye is P454, available at Everlight Chemicolor.