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recently bought the compressor from HMR (Pasig). It's 2.5 HP 40L. I settled for this cheap alternative since I'm going to use it sparingly and strictly home use.

As I was about to finish my initial coating (2 cabinet doors = 8x4 ft), the compressor just died on me. I heard 'palyado' sound before it finally stopped 3 seconds later. Now, it just creates whining sound.

Tried pressing Reset button and cool it down but still no response except that sound. Tried manually moving the propeller and I notice some notable resistance. Not sure though if that is normal.

Anybody encountered the same problem?
Anybody knows where to have it fixed? How much?

 
Posted : 13/10/2008 10:51 am
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

Sad to hear that your compressor conked out. Maybe its the heat that caused this . Whenever I do jobs that requires the compressor to work continuously then I always use an an electric fan to help cool it down.

Do you have the oil less type compressor?

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Posted : 13/10/2008 12:11 pm
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

I know the compressor has oil.

You can check out this link. It is exactly the same as in the pics.

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/780080/Air+Compressor+Trade+Air+2.5+HP+40+Liter+Tank

 
Posted : 13/10/2008 1:34 pm
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

That is a direct drive compressor. My "local" looks very similar. I also have 1 or 2 HMR bought units, both of which I never got to work though I really did not expect they would - I bought them for the parts mostly. The problem with these Australian compressors is that they have 50 Hz motors that will give less power AND generate more heat instead when used with 60 Hz electricity. Power tools that use universal motors are OK.

You could try bringing it to an electric fan repair shop or better a motor repair shop. I suspect though the motor is burned. If it is, sorry to say, you might have no choice but to buy a new 60 Hz version.

 
Posted : 14/10/2008 8:37 am
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

I guess that's the reality I have to contend with. I brought the unit at a motor shop. 11 cabinet doors on primer and 2 cabinet doors on final coating. I hoped for a little longer than this.

 
Posted : 14/10/2008 9:20 am
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

I hope it will not be expensive to repair. However if you plan to do a lot of painting in the future you might want to consider another route.

If you decide to get a new one then at least let me give you a heads up. I have a Vespa 1 HP compressor which is rated at 100 PSI and a 115L tank. However I increased this and now run it at 115 PSI. When I was searching for a compressor to buy I found out that not all Vespa Units are made equal. The finish and build of the one assembled by EY Industrial Sales was more " tuned" in terms of parts used and even appearance. I have now used this for countless jobs for almost 8 mos without any issue. I just changed the oil to SAE 30 after the first 24 hours total time of use ( break in period) . None the less I make sure to give it an extra cooling by electric fan when I run it continuously ( painting and air tools). So far so good, knock on wood.

I believe parts and service for this compressor are abundant too.

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Posted : 14/10/2008 11:05 am
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

how much is it? where you got it?

i understand there are vespa-clone in the market. would you know if it is safe to buy at raon/t.alonzo in terms of getting original vespa?

 
Posted : 14/10/2008 12:06 pm
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

Except for the filters, quick connect connectors and hoses I think I paid 9,400 pesos from Best Achievers in T. Alonzo St. I did not know by that time that I can also buy it directly from EY Industrial Sales in Kapiligan St. Try to search their number in in eyp.ph . Probably you can get a better price there.

Go around the malls first to check other Vespa before going for the EY assembled. You will see for yourself the difference.

By the way the water filter / pressure regulator connected to the compressor I bought for an extra 750 pesos in T. Alonzo St. too.

Good Luck.

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Posted : 14/10/2008 1:30 pm
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

Bro your compressor looks like a race car with all those stickers 🙂 and so clean and shiny.

 
Posted : 14/10/2008 2:37 pm
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

Capacitor got busted accrdg to the motor shop and it will set me back 850.

Could it be due to 50hz spec while source is 60hz?

Although, the shop says the compressor is quite new but might be old stock. Too old that capacitor got forced to work more than it could handle. I'm no electrical savvy, so I don't know if that's sound bull crap.

 
Posted : 14/10/2008 3:09 pm
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Bro your compressor looks like a race car with all those stickers 🙂 and so clean and shiny.

Yeah with the high cost of tools we have to take care of these if these are to serve us well. It will also bring better selling price when upgrade time comes.. 😉

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Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
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Posted : 14/10/2008 3:51 pm
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

Capacitor got busted accrdg to the motor shop and it will set me back 850.

Could it be due to 50hz spec while source is 60hz?

Although, the shop says the compressor is quite new but might be old stock. Too old that capacitor got forced to work more than it could handle. I'm no electrical savvy, so I don't know if that's sound bull crap.

If I get this right its a starting capacitor to kick the motor. If its defective then the motor will not start up.

I might be wrong.

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Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 14/10/2008 3:55 pm
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

It could be. A motor repair shop should have a good capacitor you can test with.

 
Posted : 15/10/2008 10:49 am
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

jacorb_88 : I hope your compressor is repaired and working fine now ...

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Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 18/10/2008 5:27 am
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Re: Trade Air Compressor Conked Out

Had the chance to break it in, finished 2 cabinet doors (8x2ft each). Looks okay to me. But as you are doing, got a fan too 😉

 
Posted : 18/10/2008 2:09 pm
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