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Any suggestion on a good brand of paint brush to use? (yung pwede sana mabili lang sa wilcon or sa ace)

The one i'm using kasi for my guitar rack finishing is a "croco" brand from a local hardware store and laging may nalalagas na brush strands. So I'm planning to change to a better brush before I do the final coats.

 
Posted : 26/06/2010 7:48 pm
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

I use Rubbermaid but surely there are better ones. Let's wait for other members to chime in on what they use.

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Posted : 26/06/2010 9:13 pm
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

Any suggestion on a good brand of paint brush to use? (yung pwede sana mabili lang sa wilcon or sa ace)

The one i'm using kasi for my guitar rack finishing is a "croco" brand from a local hardware store and laging may nalalagas na brush strands. So I'm planning to change to a better brush before I do the final coats.

what type of finish are you going to use anyway?

natural bristles are perfect for lacquer and or polyurethanes and are easy to clean since they dont cling to the finish as much like the plastic ones.

the worst is the globe brand...cheap..pampintura ng kalsada at nitso.

manmade bristles are usually black or grey in color whilst natural horse hair (and other mammals) bristles are colored flesh or cream with some specks of gray..they may not be thick though..and the tips naturally taper to a pointed end.

use a polyurethane (there are many at wilcon..konig, PYE etc) and you will be surprised! easy on the brush too...polyurethane are self levelling..meaning...thickly applied the better..no brush strokes unlike some lacquer based finish like a sanding sealer or clear gloss lacquer..only problem is the waiting time for the poly to cure.it takes longer usually 4 hours to 1 day before the next coat..this means that you need to protect your work from dust while the finish is curing..when dry, sand it lightly to remove burrs (hand feel) use 320 grit sandpaper or finer...remove sanding dusts completely then apply the next coat..of course if you flood your work the vertical parts would have a drip so just flood piece by piece the parts that are horizontally oriented..yes, poly takes time but if youve got all the time in this world, then you can apply as much as you can till you reach the super glossy end.

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The devil will find work for idle hands to do.-Morrissey

 
Posted : 27/06/2010 3:44 am
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

what type of finish are you going to use anyway?

natural bristles are perfect for lacquer and or polyurethanes and are easy to clean since they dont cling to the finish as much like the plastic ones.

the worst is the globe brand...cheap..pampintura ng kalsada at nitso.

manmade bristles are usually black or grey in color whilst natural horse hair (and other mammals) bristles are colored flesh or cream with some specks of gray..they may not be thick though..and the tips naturally taper to a pointed end.

use a polyurethane (there are many at wilcon..konig, PYE etc) and you will be surprised! easy on the brush too...polyurethane are self levelling..meaning...thickly applied the better..no brush strokes unlike some lacquer based finish like a sanding sealer or clear gloss lacquer..only problem is the waiting time for the poly to cure.it takes longer usually 4 hours to 1 day before the next coat..this means that you need to protect your work from dust while the finish is curing..when dry, sand it lightly to remove burrs (hand feel) use 320 grit sandpaper or finer...remove sanding dusts completely then apply the next coat..of course if you flood your work the vertical parts would have a drip so just flood piece by piece the parts that are horizontally oriented..yes, poly takes time but if youve got all the time in this world, then you can apply as much as you can till you reach the super glossy end.

😉

Thanks for the reply sir! Im using Wattyl Estapol Exterior Finish its and Australian brand. It's been lying around the storage room so I used it na lang.

So if it's not self leveling, how do I achieve a level finish without the brush stroke traces?

If I plan to do the final coat with spray gun, how do I mix the proper consistency for the gun? (Sorry to ask this in advance, I know sir timber will be tackling this at the Boysen seminar).

Thanks Masters!

 
Posted : 27/06/2010 9:05 am
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

there will always be some visible brush strokes but here is a tip...after your final coat, sand it llightly with a very fine sandpaper lets say 600 grit and make use of a rubbing compound they use in auto paint shops
and rub it in till you get the glossy finish with a fine cotton rag.

The devil will find work for idle hands to do.-Morrissey

 
Posted : 27/06/2010 12:21 pm
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

there will always be some visible brush strokes but here is a tip...after your final coat, sand it llightly with a very fine sandpaper lets say 600 grit and make use of a rubbing compound they use in auto paint shops
and rub it in till you get the glossy finish with a fine cotton rag.

Thanks sir violaine! will try that too.

 
Posted : 27/06/2010 2:37 pm
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

Let me share what i've learned from old school billiard table makers & finishers

A few hours after the final coat, lightly damp a cotton cloth with lacquer thinner. Squeeze out excess, a litlle pag-pag, then gently wipe on the surfaces.

Cloth (daw) should be about the size our palm, one layer, no folds. This is to have full control & a good feel of the surfaces.

I found this very useful in removing excess poly & levelling out minor brush marks without having to apply new coats.

Try first on scraps, just in case

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 6:05 am
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

Handyman once had a sale with with a Buy 1 Take 1 on Rubbermaid brushes ... I quickly took nearly everything in the basket. I'm no expert but they're a lot better than the other kinds I've used.

There is a technique in boat building that's called "Roll-n-Tip". People that have used it swear that it gives great results. The idea is similar to what bro Bobbypage1 posted. The way it goes is you use a roller to put the paint on then you pull the tip of a brush with a bit of lacquer thinner over the surface to level things out.

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 6:29 am
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

a word of caution.

diffucult to remove the poly on the brush using a cheap lacquer thinner..try the expensive ones or better if you have mineral spirits.

in my case i use xylene.

The devil will find work for idle hands to do.-Morrissey

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 7:25 am
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

wow astig! iba-iba pala tachniques. didnt know that there are many techniques and approaches to finishing. Will definitely try and experiment on each approach to see which one works for me. 🙂

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 8:04 am
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

A brush that i have used is the house brand of Handyman. Its label says Pro Series. They are on the pricey side, my 2" brush is around P200 iirc but for me is worth it. I brushed on poly with it and i like it better than the rubbermaid. In true value there is a even more expensive brush but i forgot the brand.

Usually polyurethane is thinned/cleaned by using paint thinner or mineral spirits. I haven't tried lacquer with it.

 
Posted : 28/06/2010 6:03 pm
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Re: What's a good brush to use?

Where can I buy cheap camel brush?
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