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And here are the two finished plates, the top, I used a 130amp and the lower one I used the 140 amp. :cool01: :chopper:

To be continued again.................................

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Posted : 01/05/2012 12:41 am
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Re: Let's practice STICK WELDING, and proper weld bead applications.

AND TO CONTINUE AGAIN WITH THE EXERCISES OF PROPER WELD BEAD APPLICATIONS :

Here's the second phase of the exercises and a continuation of where we left off, I made again a graphic illustration for better understanding of what I will be doing and hope too for those interested viewers who are also doing some practice welding on their own.

These exercises will be very good for the purpose of knowing different weld applications and finding out their similarities and differences between each different weld techniques or pattern. Plus doing these continous exercise will help control wrist and arm movements with ease and smooth flow hopefully, ( PULSO NG KAMAY ). :bruce_lee: :play_ball:

As indicated in the illustration, I used flat bars to practice on my welds, some 2" x 6" x 3/16" thickness and for each welding technique or pattern, may I suggest 4 to 5 pieces for others just to get used to applying and knowing the proper weld bead applications. I know maybe at first it will be ugly but as you go on and continue your welds will be better. :2thumbsup:

On the plate or flat bar, you can outline some three or four lines wherein it will serve as guide when you start applying welds.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 4:48 pm
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For this first weld exercise, I will use the CRESCENT pattern or the continuos letter Cs, I will only record the first plate as starter so that others may see how it will appear. If you will see I have already done the Oscillating or Circular pattern on the previous weld applications in previous post.


To start with, I have drawn three lines on the flat bar plus some additional graphic lines on the left side of the flat bar. So what are these extra lines, well these are just additional lines to indicate that when you apply continous welds, its diameter should not exceed 2 1/2 or 3 the diameter of the welding rod placed side by side together, well that is one rule in weaving the welds.


But for my purpose, I decided to use a 2 piece diameter rod combined as my guide since I'm used to applying this size od weld beads.
And a much closer look on the second image with the welding rods occupying the flat bar.


And here is my first weld application using the Crescent or letter C pattern and have chipped off the slags.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 5:37 pm
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Looking at the pic, I have placed 2 pieces of welding rod side by side above the weld and you can see that the diameter of the weld is just the right diameter size of the 2 rods.


Then made the second weld application and cleaned the slag off.


And again placed 2 rods side by side on top of the welds to see that the weld deposited maintains its width.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 5:49 pm
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And my third weld application. Oh my this one is an ugly weld deposit !!


Ant yet even though the weld deposited is somewhat ugly and looks so irregular, still is under the prescribed diameter or width.


Here I am focusing on the ugly welds and well I guess some times one will somehow produce ugly welds too, that is why this exercise will need some 4 or 5 more additional flat bars for some additional exercises again.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 6:04 pm
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And for the second flat bar, what I did here was just to drag the welding electrode and find out how the welds will appear underneath with out the slags.


Made some lines again on the flat bar to serve as my guide as I drag the welding electrode.


And here is my first weld application. As I was taking some pics and the weld was cooling down, I would hear crackling or clicking sounds coming from the weld and would see slags popping or dislodging by itself from the welds underneath.


For these images, I did not even used a chipping hammer to remove the slag, just picked them up with my two fingers when it cooled down completely.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 6:32 pm
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Well even though the welding electrode was only dragged slowly, it still somehow produced some small like weld weaves., hmmmm, very interesting indeed !


And the second and third weld application and likewise the slags started popping out as it cools down.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 6:42 pm
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Just no sweat at all in removing the slags, when the welds were cold enough, I just remove them all by picking them up piece by piece.


Some more pics showing the finish welds. Hmmm I wonder how come at every last weld application, I'd make ugly welds, but of course this can be corrected, got to work on the additional flat bars for this welding pattern. :rolleyes: Maybe the extreme heat is affecting my right hand, I don't know !!!

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Posted : 04/05/2012 8:19 pm
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Re: Let's practice STICK WELDING, and proper weld bead applications.

OK then after doing the dragging of the electrode, I thought I'd try the Push and Pull technique. I've done this kind of weld application on several of my metal projects and if done properly would produce a similar like TIG weld beads.


Again on another piece of flat bar, I have made some chalk lines to somehow be my guide to be able to deposit welds straight as possible.


Then proceeded to apply the welds one at a time and trying to keep the application straight as possible and as I finished the last weld, the slag of the first weld started to break and dislodge.


And then the rest of the welds followed.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 8:39 pm
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And the results of the cleaned flat bar with welds somewhat like a Tig welg application.;). Well not so much of a Tig weld application. This is done by applying the weld on the metal and as the heated metal is being deposited, you pull the rod a bit backwards about 1 cm and then you push forward the weld puddle a bit, about 1/2 cm and then pull back again to 1 cm and then push forward again. Doing this motion slowly and steadily until the whole line is filled up. This needs really some hand coordination, you push then pull, then push back again then pull back in a straight line following your guide.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 8:56 pm
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And another exercise here using the Rocking or zig zag pattern or technique.


And again some chalk lines as guide.


Applied the welds straight immediately without recording anymore about the slags popping out coz I was so curious to see the result of the underneath welds. Cleaned it all up by light chipping and wire brushing and here's the outcome. LOL, hahahaha, very evident in the welds deposited as some others may call " kaliskis biya ", fish scales. But of course this needs more practice since this is the first time I did the Zig Zag motion of pattern.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 9:12 pm
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HEHEHE, LOL, With more pics of the welds and a closer look at the " kaliskis biya ", fish scales. 😀

Thanks for viewing and sorry I cannot add or put more color or flare on the exercises, I just want to be direct and fare and square.

'Til the next exercises to be posted, hope you are learning somethings here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted : 04/05/2012 9:21 pm
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Re: Let's practice STICK WELDING, and proper weld bead applications.

Looks very easy while looking at the pics. However I know it's NOT since I tried stick welding before and know how difficult it is to control the arc.

Bro Rosy has a lot of stick weld time under his belt now thus can produce such good beads. I'm sure this thread will help a lot of members planning to try SMAW. He's showing the short cut to learning it quickly.

This thread is so educational it deserves to be a sticky.

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Posted : 04/05/2012 10:54 pm
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a closer look at the " kaliskis biya ", fish scales. 😀

Well reviewing all the weld practice application I posted, this patter or technique, the Rocking motion or Zig zag is very similar to the Push-n-Pull motion technique. The former uses a back and forth motion too but in a diagonal manner of movement while the latter technique which uses the back and forth movement as well but in a straight back hand manner, hhhmmm really very interesting.
I guess I'll practice more on this technique quite often coz it really produces very nice and very interesting weld beads specially for capping purposes or final weld application. I have produced somewhat like TIG looking weld beads but this fish scale ( kaliskis biya ) look, appears more interesting and appealing. :clap:

So for you guys interested to produce these kind of weld bead appearance/look, do practice this pattern several times or often. One measurement of a good welder is that he can produce good looking weld bead applications aside from knowing how to apply these welds in different welding positions. 😉
But of course this will be useless for final looking beads application if the welds will just be grinded off.

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Posted : 05/05/2012 10:48 am
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Re: Let's practice STICK WELDING, and proper weld bead applications.

Looks very easy while looking at the pics. However I know it's NOT since I tried stick welding before and know how difficult it is to control the arc.

Bro Rosy has a lot of stick weld time under his belt now thus can produce such good beads. I'm sure this thread will help a lot of members planning to try SMAW. He's showing the short cut to learning it quickly.

This thread is so educational it deserves to be a sticky.

Yes bro JayL, you just have to give sometime for practice on your stick welder because in doing so applying these various weld patterns will be just like eating peanuts ones you've got the correct rhythm and hand control. Bro its cheaper to do practice/exercises on a stick welder than a MIG welder, welding electrodes are very much cheaper than mig wires plus gas pa, hehehe :p

I just hope that guys interested in welding particularly SMAW application can follow and benefit to what I am posting here coz not every one have the time or resources too to go to a welding school. Like me who would love to attend a welding school or seminar but really have no more available time for this so I just do self study and learning direct from the book or articles from the net. ITS A SORT OF FRUSTRATION FOR ME that is why what ever I learn or assimilate would gladly share also to others interested. 😉

Bro, thanks for making this thread sticky, I know many will learn from this if they just make it serious. :rolleyes:

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