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JayL
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

I accumulated a pile of scraps from my cart and table build. Hopefully after the table I will have some time to practice my welder's other different settings and wire sizes. Like you I deem it important to practice. Hopefully more controlled experiments on scraps as this does not have the task pressure inherent in a WIP run.

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Posted : 04/01/2012 1:23 am
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

That's good bro Jay, you've got plenty of metal scraps to practice on but may I suggest that you practice from time to time whether your WIP table is done or not. Its good for the hand control, wrist and entire arm movement. There is no need really to rush working on a WIP, I personally feel one should practice a lot just to be able to get the right feel of applying the welds before approaching any final weld application.

Doing practice welding using your mig will be kinda expensive because of the costs of the consumables so why not use your AC Powercraft stick welder, welding rods are a lot cheaper and can easily be purchased at any hardware stores. :p

Just continue practicing hand and wrist control while holding the welding rod holder and applying welds on the scrap metals plus experimenting on different ampere settings. Kailangan talaga magamay at makuha mo ang tamang pulso sa pag apply ng welds. Once you get the constant right feel of applying welds, using a Mig welder I think will just be a breeze, nothing really much difference in the style of weld application, only a different kind of tool or welder. 😉 🙂

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When I started the welding PIPs last August up to the last practice project, I was so surprised that I have consumed almost 14 kgs of welding rods plus some metal scraps purchased from a nearby junk shop and of course increased in electric bills, LOL, what I have achieved was lots of confidence in applying good weld beads plus learned different style in applying welds.
FOR SURE MY WELDS have become much better compared some years ago, the PIPs was really well worth it though with expenses incurred. Para din akong nag TESDA,wala nga lang na NC1 certificate at trade tests, hehehehe.

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Posted : 04/01/2012 10:43 am
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

I for one am a supporter of Bro Rosy's systematic PIP ( practice in progress ) idea. After seeing the results and benefits I am convinced it was time and resources spent well.

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Posted : 04/01/2012 2:27 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

OK, before I proceed with the WIP,I have decided to replace these items, particularly the first C-Purlins that I welded to become two of my casings.

I am replacing these items coz I'm not satisfied with the outcome/result of the welded two metal casings. Yes I was successful in putting them together but I think I over did it, to much heat and to much weld were applied warping the thin metals.

Here are some pics showing the finished intended metal casings that I have welded together and as you can see the total warping and distortion of the metal sheets plus the ugly full weld applications. In some cases while I was trying to cover up the previous lousy weld applications, the more the thin metal would warp plus making the whole casing's shape distorted or have become out of shape, so..........

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Posted : 10/01/2012 7:39 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

And so I went again to a nearby scrap yard and purchased 2 pcs of scrap metal frame studs for 50 pesos each, I think its much thicker than the C-Purlins that I have welded, these metal scraps are what I will use for my rod casings and since I don't have a WIP on how I made them before, then this time I'll be able to show its transformation or how I will put them together.

Measured to required size and started cutting the excess parts with my chop saw.

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Posted : 10/01/2012 8:00 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

TO CONTINUE :

These are the excess cuts and I think its much thicker than the previous C-Purlins

The excess scrap material I will use first to practice again some proper weld bead applications and see how the thicker metal will come out. 😀

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Posted : 10/01/2012 8:11 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

And this is how I will prepare the scrap metals for my practice run :

Open up one side and hammer the surface metal to remove the folds.

There it is, two pieces with one side spread open and ready to form a rectangular shape metal casing.

Somehow this is how the metal casing will appear, it will give me a casing size of 1 3/4 " X 6".
Now clamped together and ready for another practice run.

TO BE CONTINUED AGAIN !!!!!! THANKS for viewing.

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Posted : 10/01/2012 8:28 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

OK as a continuation of the WIP for the welding rod casings, after my practice run on the excess scraps which I did not record anymore, I started working on the intended metal casings.

After cutting the metals for my required length of 12", then flattened one side and then folded the end of the metal to thicken the edges.

Joined the two metals together to form a metal casing then started to tack weld the metal joints. Tomorrow I'll continue working on these casings by applying either stitch welds or possibly a full weld by just dragging the welding rod on the joints.

In this pic, I think I have a much better metal casing compared to the first C-Purlins that I have welded and got warped in the process of welding, though the latter material or metal now in fairly much thicker than the former C-purlins.

To be continued !!!

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Posted : 12/01/2012 11:18 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

Prepared and set up one of the welding rod casing for welding on top of my cutting table and will apply some stitch welding on all the metal joints.

Here I applied short welds, about 2" in length on each side. in between the spot or tack welds. This process is called stitch welding or skip welding which is more appropriate for thin sheet metals to avoid warpage of the surface.

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Posted : 15/01/2012 8:33 pm
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The resulting welds after chipping off the slags.

A close up of the right side and the left side of the welded part.

Here is another side with welds applied, the same procedure of skip welding will be applied on the other casing, so no need to take pics of the other one.

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Posted : 15/01/2012 8:51 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

nice welds rosy, but to be honest I still have not much idea what you are trying to do, may drawing ka ba nyan or plan? baka pwede picturan mo so I could visualize your build....


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Posted : 15/01/2012 8:56 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

OK then since I have completed my casings, tried to see how it will appear if welded on its base flat form.

The finished metal casings and shown are its welded parts.

Oh I slashed or cut one end to about 15 degrees, its part of the overall design and I'll show it in the following pics.

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Posted : 15/01/2012 9:07 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

HEHEHEHE, naka singit ka pala sa postings ko bro timbs, sorry kung to much suspense ang kinalalabasan na nito, but its nice to have some mystery in a project diba ? Anyway after this last few more postings, you will have maybe some idea on how it will appear, I'll try to follow it up with a colored sketch up. LOL

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Posted : 15/01/2012 9:17 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

In the following images, I will try to see how these welding rod casings would look if ever it gets welded on its base. The project is so simple but I never thought its gonna be this mabusisi. LOL

It will start with this, I added a 2" X 2" tubular in the center to house my stainless steel welding rods and then the two casings left and right will house the 6013 standard rods and the other is for the slim welding rods.

And then I will add another set of casings in front and at the back, these casings will house the 6011 and the 7018 welding rods. All of these casings will have markings on their caps which I will fabricate also. :tounge2:

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Posted : 15/01/2012 9:40 pm
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Re: Rotating Welding Rod Casings or Stand....a WIP for the Stick Welding on thin shee

The following images will just be different angles of the welding rod casing project. :attack:

These images showing different angle positions will be painted black to bluish then will be hand painted with hot colored graphics of welding sparks and spatters. Except the center tubing which will be painted silver or aluminium.

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Posted : 15/01/2012 9:51 pm
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