Re: Ryobi Planer Thicknesser Feed?

Help!

Two days ago, white smoke came out of the motor of my Ryobi thicknesser. Opened it up today but can't look into the metal motor case. Managed to vacuum out all the wood dust. Also managed to crack the plastic housing all over.

Ran the motor without load and noticed that sparks kept flying where the carbon brush is. There's also that strong ugly familiar smell of burning.

Is my thicknesser done for? What could cause the burning? Any idea how I can fix this?

Ding, seems like the armature gave in.:oops: I don't know about the field coil but nevertheless do not try to rewind it as it will be a complete waste of time and money. If i were you i would get another unit from joey81's source. The unit probably got misaligned on your last chain mishap. If in case you will get another ryobi get the 50/60hz model. I was able to get a few dual frequency units from the HMR auctions before. Their still running considering I got them way back 2007.

Ding, you can find in this Sulit ad the contact details of Waterhouse Auctions where Armand and I got our Ryobi planers. :D:D:D

Passed by the warehouse this afternoon to look for a chainsaw. Sabi ng guard wala na daw ang Waterhouse dun.
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I probably fed some rough cut lumber too aggressively into it.

Nowadays armature bearings are held by the motor's plastic housing so at the slightest case of chain breakage or bearing collapse the housing cracks or worst melts. Even if the armature survives eventually misalignment will prevail and soon the armature burns. You may notice this problem if you check the commutator and the copper segments begin to blacken, not just darken. Excessive spark on the carbon brush and that burnt smell are clear indicators of this problem. What's worst is most tool motor housings are designed this way nowadays regardless of brand. It will now fall on the user to extend the life of his tools. In the case of Ding's thicknesser feed depth was the culprit.

What probably did it was that I force-fed (as in tinutulak ko) large (2x2x8) rough-cut mahogany.

Just to quantify ... what depth of cut was being attempted? For Makita, max depth of cut is specified to be 1, 2, or 3 mm depending on width, but I try not to do more than 0.5 mm per pass, regardless of width.

'Force-fed' meaning ... 1) pushed faster than the feed rollers were pulling in? ... or 2) pushed in because the rollers were not pulling in for some reason (like excessive depth of cut?)? I've had to do the second for shallow depth of cut when the material was too heavy (too much friction on infeed table) for the rollers to pull in, but try to simulate the normal speed of the rollers. I'd call this case 'helping' not force-feeding. 🙂

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It was rough cut lumber, Guad. So the plank started feeding in but would stop often because the thickness varied and I'd try to push it in. Since I was successful doing this before, I kept doing it. In hindsight, I should just raise the blades a bit.
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brader, 2x2 into the thicknesser isn't wide... I was planing 11" wide board often in my 2012nb....
you will not regret getting the 2012, a secondhand with the price you texted as long as it looks and works fine is my choice, though Irwin Hardware is a good store and highly recommend it. Willy is a friend, tell him you know me after you pay ha, baka dagdagan ang price eh.....

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Will mention your name, Timber, sabay ilag.

BTW, I was feeding 2x8's of lengths 8' to 10' very rough mahogany.

In my search for a thicknesser, read about the 13 inch Steel City with helical blades. It's probably a good planer; Ridgid body into which Steel City installed a cutting cylinder arrayed with square cutting blades that you rotate (hence 4 edges) when they get dull. Should also be very quiet. About same price as Makita and DeWalt. But reviews complained a lot about all the wax.

A pity such a good design is ruined by bad packaging.
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Just to quantify ... what depth of cut was being attempted? For Makita, max depth of cut is specified to be 1, 2, or 3 mm depending on width, but I try not to do more than 0.5 mm per pass, regardless of width.

'Force-fed' meaning ... 1) pushed faster than the feed rollers were pulling in? ... or 2) pushed in because the rollers were not pulling in for some reason (like excessive depth of cut?)? I've had to do the second for shallow depth of cut when the material was too heavy (too much friction on infeed table) for the rollers to pull in, but try to simulate the normal speed of the rollers. I'd call this case 'helping' not force-feeding. 🙂

Most power tools are designed w/ a specific range or load capacity. The general rule is to allow the tool to work in it's prescribed limits or where Excessive force or Abnormal conditions are avoided to promote longevity and efficiency. A Contractors Thickness planer needs an in-feed and out-feed support so as to reduce drum and feed load. The initial feed force is just a guided effort to make sure that the work piece is seated properly on the drum feed roller and that the alignment is ok during this first step of the process. The feed depth is ideally as minimal as possible. The craftsman has to gauge the power of his motor and the design of his tool. During the initial feed you will feel the motor's Purr or Grunt and this will tell you whether you may proceed or you need to step back and adjust the depth guide to a suitable height in order to avoid burnout. You will also notice that the feed outcome is smoother for a properly fed workpiece. If you have access to a jointer this helps a lot on the thickness planer's work w/ rough cut boards.:)

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Thanks, Willy, as well as everyone here who're attempting to teach this old dog new tricks. Hope many are reading this thread. Lots of learning. I really did jam the wood in.

BTW, I do not have a jointer. What I do with rough cut lumber is to mark it with a chalk-string (if that's what it's called) then try to cut it with a circ saw to have as much as possible a straight side, then use that side as base when thickness-planing. Of course, I can do this only for planks that would fit the cutting radius of my saw.
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Passed by the warehouse this afternoon to look for a chainsaw. Sabi ng guard wala na daw ang Waterhouse dun.
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Some off topic sandali admin !!!!

@JOEY81,

Pre if you are looking for a homeowner's chain saw, get in touch with pyth, he is selling one, brand new and unused, its HOMELITE, 33cc, 16" guide bar and cutting chain. 🙂

Bro if you decide to have one you have to do a lot of research on how to operate this very dangerous machine or I can help you out and show you how it is properly operated and used, how to maintain the engine and keep the chain cutters sharp. 😉 :p

I have one kasi and also know its danger. 😮 Bro inggat lang, the cutters can cut you up or kill you.

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http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/4363925/Thickness+Planer+Makita?referralKeywords=makita

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@ BALARILA,

Bro ding, this might interest you, a link from bro Owyn:
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/4363925/Thickness+Planer+Makita?referralKeywords=makita

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Thanks, Rosy. Jay also sent me that link.

Contacted the seller. His unit needs new blades because it ran into a small nail. And seller does not allow meet-ups which means I have to go all the way to Las Pinas (from Antipolo). With the logistical challenge and the new blades and the time needed for the transaction and testing, the cost advantage vs brand new (for me) quickly eroded.

But if anyone of you live near where he is and could get new blades easily, I think it's a good buy. He's willing to go lower than posted price. He claims the unit is practically new because the wood product shop they intend to use it for closed down.

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Let's hear what Timber and V have to say.They know this particular tool inside out. They each own one.

Soon another 2012NB expert coming. 🙂

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@ BALARILA,

Bro ding, this might interest you, a link from bro Owyn:
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/4363925/Thickness+Planer+Makita?referralKeywords=makita

If anyone is near and needs a 2012NB, that item seems like a very good buy. I would suggest without a doubt the 2012nb, serves me well for several years already and though I alraedy got new replacement blades, I still haven't used them as the original blade (second side) is still cutting 11" wide mahogany regularly.

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Additional info if you're still calculating cost savings vs. time/gas/effort: the pair of planer blades 793346-8 cost ~$42 now (up from ~$38 when I got them). Mayon price was P2,780 last I checked. I'm also still on original blades so can offer my replacement set at cost. But you have to tell me soon so I can buy another set online.

Another consideration is warranty? What is the warranty on brand new nowadays vs. before? Mayon policy is so contradictory/hard to pin down that I can't remember what it was, let alone is. IIRC, then, zero (!) months parts with lifetime free labor, despite what the 'warranty card' says. I heard one authorized dealer complain about this and tried to discourage getting Makita; apparently they've had hard time on legitimate claims, and at one point someone from Japan had to set Mayon straight, allegedly.

Then, if one buys used, what does that do to the Mayon warranty, whatever it is or was.

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