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JayL
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Hi,

Can anybody please give some advises on a reasonably priced Stick Welding Machine with acceptable quality. I would be using this around the house for maintenance work and in the workshop building metal bits and pieces . I have checked the market ( malls and binondo area) and was overwhelmed by the different stick welding machines sold around wherein I could not get enough information to make a decision.

I thought it was probably better to ask here for some real world feedbacks.

Thanks ....

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Posted : 08/10/2008 9:29 am
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Re: Stick Welder

I have tried those small welding machines (with stainless housing and blower). It is light and compact, perfect for repairs. I have 2 bigger ones(300A) but my welder prefers the compact unit because of its ease in transport and ease in set-up. It had been 2+ years already and it is still working fine until now. I would not recommend the capacitor looking direct connect welding machine, Yes its cheap but can mess up your electrical system. HTH!

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Posted : 08/10/2008 12:43 pm
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Re: Stick Welder

Nice post opzuk4x4. I've always wondered what those small welding units are. I'm no expert, I'm just a hobby-welder. For what it is worth, I bought my 300A Yamato welding machine .... I don't know how many years ago ... maybe 7 or 8 ... and I can't say I'm unhappy with it. I've used it for most everything from heavy work (boat trailer) to light work (SS fittings).

I do have one recommendation: Get 1st grade welding cable. I got 2nd grade cable now the insulation has become brittle so bare wire is exposed all over its length.

 
Posted : 08/10/2008 1:41 pm
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I do have one recommendation: Get 1st grade welding cable. I got 2nd grade cable now the insulation has become brittle so bare wire is exposed all over its length.

I couldn't agree more bro!

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Posted : 08/10/2008 2:58 pm
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Re: Stick Welder

Tks for your replies. Welding Newbie here.

Is the Yamato 300A an AC / DC machine or AC only. How much do you think is the price now?

regards .... JAY

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 09/10/2008 2:49 am
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Re: Stick Welder

My Yamato is AC only and I think they cost around P8k now.

Tip: I rent it out around the neighborhood for P300 a day, I should be able to buy a new cable soon :).

 
Posted : 09/10/2008 5:43 am
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Re: Stick Welder

Anybody checked out Increweld. It's worth 3,500. Locally made/invented. It's less than the size of a shoe box. Judging from the Youtube video, it's quite light. You can check the net for more information.

Unlike some of the newer machines which you can plug in directly through the ordinary household sockets, Increweld is still directly wired from the main source.

Experts here may scrutinize the product and give feedback. I still have secound thoughts until I get real world assessment.

 
Posted : 09/10/2008 9:24 am
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Re: Stick Welder

Jacorb, I think that is the capacitor type mentioned above. I don't really know though.

 
Posted : 09/10/2008 2:16 pm
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Re: Stick Welder

Anybody checked out Increweld. It's worth 3,500. Locally made/invented. It's less than the size of a shoe box. Judging from the Youtube video, it's quite light. You can check the net for more information.

Unlike some of the newer machines which you can plug in directly through the ordinary household sockets, Increweld is still directly wired from the main source.

Experts here may scrutinize the product and give feedback. I still have secound thoughts until I get real world assessment.

Yep, that's the capacitor type I was referring to. Unless your mains are #6 or bigger then this is not for you. They say #8 will suffice but the mains still heat up considerably. They also recommend a grounding rod deep enough. So, in other words you have a compact welding machine but too cumbersome to operate. It is also not variable unlike the yamatos. Just my two cents.

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Posted : 09/10/2008 5:38 pm
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Ah I c. What's with variable yamatos?

 
Posted : 10/10/2008 9:31 am
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Ah I c. What's with variable yamatos?

All conventional boxed type electric arc welding machines have current rate adjustments for different type of welding applications. Like welding thin plates and thick sections.

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Posted : 10/10/2008 11:22 am
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Variablibility is a very good thing to have because then you can weld a wider range of thicknesses. For example when I weld SS tubes, I set it very low. When I welded the frame of my trailer I set it to maximum.

 
Posted : 10/10/2008 12:55 pm
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Re: Stick Welder

How about choices of Electrodes?

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 10/10/2008 4:34 pm
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Yes aparently you need to choose your electrodes too but I always just ask my the supplier what would the appropriate one to use.

By the way, if you have leftover electrodes or you buy more than you need, remember to keep them in a plastic bag or airtight container so moisture does not seep into them.

 
Posted : 13/10/2008 8:16 am
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Re: Stick Welder

hi! I am also thinking of asking my wife to give me a welding machine as a christmas gift (instead of the long delayed guitar). What I've seen so far are those compact type arc welders sold in the malls (ACE, Handyman). From what I've read in the Hayne's Manual, arc welders are fairly common and can have a lot of uses.

My questions are:

Besides the mall, where can I buy affordable welding machines that can be used occasionally around the house? Those in ACE are priced around Php5.5K. (one american brand and the other one is Fuji)

What types of metals can an arc welder work on?

Finally, what are the specs should I consider in choosing a good welder?

Thanks a lot!

 
Posted : 21/11/2008 3:27 pm
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