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rosy
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

HEHEHE, Making it really bloody red there mate !!! LOL :bond: :rofl:

Well not really a Ferrari red but looks like more of a TOYOTA red. Nicer if its deeper metallic red leaning to maroon to make it more bloody red !!! :naughty2: :bat:

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Posted : 29/08/2013 4:32 pm
horge
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

Go on, just keep laughing at me, hehe.
I've no choice but to trudge on... *choke*

Unmasked the parts painted:

Before I can reassemble the York, however, I have to deal with a couple of issues
(mercifully-unrelated to the previous bloodbath). See this earlier photo:

First, one of the vise-jaw screws has been stripped and needs replacing. We may note
the York 100 (100mm jaw), by the model name itself, was built to metric standards
(the Czechs adopted metric way back in 1876). I will need a raised-countersunk-head
M5 x 1.5mm machine screw. A mall visit to ACE/TrueValue/Handyman will more-likely
present me with SAE screws (less true for ACE), but will also afford a chance to find
some moly grease for reassembling the York.

Second, the vise jaws aren't in particularly good shape. Somebody worked the hell out
of this vise, to the point of breaking off a part of the vise-body where one jaw goes
(seen in the ^pic of the unmasked parts). Even after bolting the jawplates together,
setting them up in another vise, and then trying to true their tops with a broad file,
I'm not happy with how mangled they remain. However, a quick price-check on a new
set from York (60 euros or P2,360.00, shipped) had me swallowing my discontent.
Perhaps later on, na lang.


http://www.fine-tools.com/cgi-bin/shop/fronten/shop_main.cgi?func=scartshow&wkid=32146015888144&status=&nocache=1377815795

Third, I *might* try to make a waterslide decal of the 'YORK' logo, which appears in
the front of NOS York specimens... but I dunno. I'd much rather start repairs on: either
the current, beat-up shop vise (the Morgan Junior) so I can retire it with honor; or the
vise that's inevitably going to replace it: a Rock Island 571.

I also should rehabilitate my outdoor hot-work vise (a CT-102/8 I had reviewed earlier)
that was half-buried in mud, August of last year. It makes no sense to keep recleaning
the electrolysis tub and re-bottling all the electrolyte for one-offs: I'm already set-up for
derusting, and should just derust as much as I can, while I can...

However this is a York 100 thread, so I'll focus on the York 100.
Screw-hunting today. Vise-reassembly tomorrow...

Again, thanks for visiting my thread!

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 8:50 am
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

Go on, just keep laughing at me, hehe.
I've no choice but to trudge on... *choke*

Unmasked the parts painted:

[COLOR="Blue"]How about an over coat of matte top coat to give it a more industrial look?

Before I can reassemble the York, however, I have to deal with a couple of issues
(mercifully-unrelated to the previous bloodbath). See this earlier photo:

Second, the vise jaws aren't in particularly good shape. Somebody worked the hell out
of this vise, to the point of breaking off a part of the vise-body where one jaw goes
(seen in the ^pic of the unmasked parts). Even after bolting the jawplates together,
setting them up in another vise, and then trying to true their tops with a broad file,
I'm not happy with how mangled they remain. However, a quick price-check on a new
set from York (60 euros or P2,360.00, shipped) had me swallowing my discontent.
Perhaps later on, na lang.

[I

[COLOR="blue"]Can the Jaw blemishes/cracks be fill weld then milled and re-grooved? Mas mura kaya?:goodluck:

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 10:23 am
horge
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

[COLOR="blue"]Can the Jaw blemishes/cracks be fill weld then milled and re-grooved? Mas mura kaya?:goodluck:

Hi Willy,

Not such small voids, I think, and besides: my welding skills are barely average, and
more to the point, my patience is way BELOW average, haha. A new set of jaws
wouldn't actually cost a lot, by themselves: it's the ridiculous shipping/handling (from
Dobris, CZ to MNL) that's the killer
, so I may have to order it from the US while I'm
there, kasi the vendor offers free shipping the US (ang labo, 'no?).

In the meantime I'll just pop the old jawplates back in, and leave the vise be for
a month or more, just to let the paint fully harden. It'll probably be mounted in
the hobby room. I love finally having an old-model York, but am not as fond of red
as my wife, lol... so I don't particularly want it in the shop. A haze-gray Rock Island
suits my (typically sullen) work-moods better.

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 10:48 am
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

Our dear friend Joey81 is in the US now taking orders from fellow PHmers baka he can help you much faster than your planned purchase. Give him a PM try. He's very accommodating. I love Gray, hammered black and blue fired/heated metal much like what they do with gun stock frames.

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 12:20 pm
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

Maliit lang naman yung jaws. And I don't think it will look suspicious on X-ray.

Sure, I can bring it in.

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 12:33 pm
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

Maliit lang naman yung jaws. And I don't think it will look suspicious on X-ray.

Sure, I can bring it in.

Medyo OT pero with Bro Horge's permission singit narin ako...TIA

Joey81,

May pag asa kaya ito? http://www.amazon.com/Delmhorst-J-2000-Digital-Moisture-Meter/dp/B0000224D3 I'd prefer sana the J2000/PKG set na worth $429.00
Maga magkano kaya aabutin?:eek::D Can you quote me? TIA. Regards.

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 1:08 pm
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

PM sent. πŸ™‚

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 1:22 pm
horge
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

Our dear friend Joey81 is in the US now taking orders from fellow PHmers baka he can

help you much faster than your planned purchase. Give him a PM. He's very accommodating.

Maliit lang naman yung jaws. And I don't think it will look suspicious on X-ray. Sure, I

can bring it in.

Most deeply appreciated, Joey81!
There's no rush though, and I'll be over there just two months from
now, so I think I'll do it myself (or not... it's nice not to commit just
yet), hehe.

-=-=-=-=-

Reassembling the York 100:

First I reinstalled the jaw-plates. The replacement screw was close
enough to the original, so no problems.

I then turned to the swivel base...
I positioned the swivel-base and its two carriage-bolts properly:
with the boltheads sitting on top of stacks of washers, to ensure
that the bolt-ends poked up PAST their designated holes in the
swivel-base. The carriage-bolts used were original to the vise.

I then lowered the vise body onto the swivel-base, ensuring that
the carriage bolt-ends went up through the appropriate holes in the
vise-body. I know it's not canon, but I placed a washer under each
swivel nut, which I tightened with Channellock plumbing-pliers. The
reason for the washers is they left the nuts sitting higher off the
swivel base, protecting most of the bolt-threads from damage. The
swivel nuts used are original to the vise, but flipped over to present
a clean, undamaged face:

Then it was time to deal with the front-jaw and leadscrew.
I lubed the leadscrew with a fingertip-dollop of moly grease, in prep
for installing it in the front-jaw. The leadscrew retention pin was
also pre-positioned, with its tip placed in the appropriate hole:

(cont'd)

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 7:45 pm
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

I inserted the leadscrew all the way into the front-jaw's forward hole,
made sure there was a soft cloth between front-jaw and worktable,
then carefully hammered the leadscrew retention pin into place:

Next was pushing two fingertip-blobs of moly grease into the narrower
(or forward) end of the main nut.

Then, the tricky part:
I sprayed the inside of the vise-body with oil for rust protection. Then
the front jaw was carefully inserted into the vise-body's forward hole
(after smearing some moly grease into the front-jaw's keyway: a long
groove along the underside of its thick cylindrical shaft. Sorry, forgot
pics). With the frontjaw inserted all the way, I took the main nut and
oiled its outside, then inserted it, narrow-end-first, into the rear hole
of the vise body. I pressed down on the leadscrew's head to tilt the
leadscrew's threaded end upward, so that the main nut could engage
it properly. I then screwed the main nut onto the leadscrew, as far as
I could turn it. Here it is at the very start of the turning:

There's a limit to how far I could keep turning the main nut, because as
it wound deeper and deeper onto the leadscrew, I lost my grip on it. As
I neared that point, I made sure the retention-pin holes at the rear of
the main nut were aligned vertically, then pulled the front-jaw outward,
in effect pulling the main nut snugly into the vise body. I then positioned
the nut-retention pin, for driving home with a hammer:

(cont'd)

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 7:47 pm
horge
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

The main-nut retention pin, halfway through the vise body:

With the main nut retention pin driven-in fully, or at least traversing the
vise body's top and underside, what remained was to function-check
the vise [COLOR="Red"](I had to be mindful that the vise wasn't bolted down, and that
opening the jaws too far could cause the vise to tip over, potentially
right off the worktable!), then use a rubber mallet to tap the dome-like
endcap into the vise-body's rear hole. This was tricky in the sense that
it's hard to get the endcap inserted squarely: if it went in at an angle,
I'd have had to either accept how askew it was, or take the vise apart
all over again, just for a second try with the endcap.

The reassembled York 100 vise:

The vise action is so smooth, I can now forgive how red it is.
My wife wanted the "YORK" and "PATENT 685893 ZÁKONEM CHRÁNENO"
legends highlighted in yellow-orange, but then I pointed out that it would
result in a rather-communist palette ...and she quickly backed off, lol.

The retention pins need a little more driving-in, but that's easy...
One day, I'll do something about those awful handle-ends...
I'll buy new jaws, and might try for a "YORK" decal... but that'll probably be
some time from now. The paint job needs to harden up anyway, so I'll put
this vise away, its base resting on a sheet of waxed paper, and call this an
honest and fun week of vise-restoration (now for the old Morgan Junior and
that Rock Island 571, hehe).

Again, thank you all for visiting this thread!!

.

 
Posted : 30/08/2013 7:50 pm
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Nice... congratulations bro πŸ˜€

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Posted : 30/08/2013 8:23 pm
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Re: Vintage York 100 Bench Vise - Restoration Project

Wow!

Feels like an episode of History Channel's Restoration Kings.

 
Posted : 31/08/2013 6:57 am
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