Re: DIY Table Saw

I can't decide which takes the prize for "edgy"...
your username or the lack of safety-features in that table-saw

What's going on Horge? Yeah, some folks may think my username is somewhat "edgy"., but it's all good...I'm part Chinese . It was my alias "rapper" name back in the day... LOL! Well, the video comes in 4 parts, but I just added the link to the 1st part. On the following videos, he did incorporate some safety features.

Fearless

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The table saw is the heart of my workshop. It is the most commonly used tool for me. As such, it is my most well maintained tool because I need it to be accurate and safe to use ALL the time.

I've also begun to get/fabricate some accessories that augment its use and accuracy (e.g. extensions, better miter fence, featherboards, jigs, etc) and also have some maintenance/adjustment tools (e.g. angle gauge, saw gauge).

In my opinion, since the table saw is my most hardworking tool in the shop, it would be the last one I would fabricate, the last one I would skimp on. The benefits of buying a good table is the quality and speed of work you can get out of it, safety features, plus the augmentations and aftermarket accessories you can get to improve performance and ease-of-use.

I'd rather spend my time building other things than major tools.

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Hello balarila,
I see what you mean. I like your train of thought. I too wouldn't want to skimp on quality on a major tool. I had the Ryobi BT3100 in California (which I handed down to my son) which I've also built extensions and other accessories for. It just seemed like a challenge to make, and that's the factor that intrigued me. I appreciate your input. What brand of table saws are popular here in the Philippines? What do you have, if you don't mind me asking? I've seen from browsing through the threads that there's quite a few, and a few brands I haven't heard of. What would you suggest? Any Home Depot-ish like places here that readily have them available?

Thanks,
Fearless

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There are a number of table saws available here. I use a Bosch 4100 which I ordered abroad and shipped here. Even with shipping and a 110V transformer, it was economical as I got it when price was still low in the US and there were still no tax for online purchases.

Locally, Bosch sells the GTS10J. Makita is also available and, I think, DeWalt (not sure, though).

On the surplus side, you can also get Ryobi. I used to have one but the Bosch is much better made and more accurate. Some of us here also use Chin, a Chinese brand.

I would recommend Bosch. We enjoy good support from Bosch on this site. You may contact Golden Maranan, a Bosch person who actively supports us.

Hans Tools in Shangrila mall in EDSA sells the Makita but they are quite expensive. Search this site and I'm sure you will find where you can get them more cheaply from stores in Chinatown or Mayon.

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Not a few of us here import our tools/gears from the US. I for one got a Bosch GTS1031 and a Hitachi C12RSH from Amazon.

If I were you I'll have my tools and equipment in CA packed in boxes and ship them
to the Philippines.

BTW, what part of CA are you from?

@balarila: thanks for the great info. I appreciate it.

@joey81: yeah, I was thinking of asking my son for all my stuff back. LOL! He'll probably call me an Indian giver until the end of my days. Would a table saw fit in one of those balikbayan boxes? I was thinking my routers, jointers, and nail guns would, but my tracks and my big clamps wouldn't. In retrospect, I should've shipped my whole garage here. If the table saw fits in one of those boxes, that would be great. I'll just build another work table for it and everything. Thanks joey81!

I'm from San Diego

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@balarila: thanks for the great info. I appreciate it.

@joey81: yeah, I was thinking of asking my son for all my stuff back. LOL! He'll probably call me an Indian giver until the end of my days. Would a table saw fit in one of those balikbayan boxes? I was thinking my routers, jointers, and nail guns would, but my tracks and my big clamps wouldn't. In retrospect, I should've shipped my whole garage here. If the table saw fits in one of those boxes, that would be great. I'll just build another work table for it and everything. Thanks joey81!

I'm from San Diego

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You're not limited to balikbayan boxes. I know people who have shipped 50-inch TVs, band saws, gas ranges, refrigirators, etc. As long as its in a box or crate, the cargo companies will ship it.

What a coincidence. I'm in Rancho Bernardo right now, raiding the Harbor Freight stores every weekend. 🙂

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joey81,

Good ole RB. You must be one of them Rich Pinoys. LOL! All those northern SD folks are all good. Scripps Ranch, La Jolla, Mira Mesa. Damn, I miss them carne asada burritos! You need to go to one of those "Bertos" joints and LBC me a few of those! Hook a brother up! LOL! Just messin' man! Yeah, miss going to all those places...Lowe's, Home Depot, Sears, Harbor Freight, hell, I even miss going to the Swap Meet! Happy hunting my friend! Now i'm home sick 🙁

Fearless

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You're not limited to balikbayan boxes. I know people who have shipped 50-inch TVs, band saws, gas ranges, refrigirators, etc. As long as its in a box or crate, the cargo companies will ship it

Are you talking about me?:rip1:

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@balarila: thanks for the great info. I appreciate it.

@joey81: yeah, I was thinking of asking my son for all my stuff back. LOL! He'll probably call me an Indian giver until the end of my days. Would a table saw fit in one of those balikbayan boxes? I was thinking my routers, jointers, and nail guns would, but my tracks and my big clamps wouldn't. In retrospect, I should've shipped my whole garage here. If the table saw fits in one of those boxes, that would be great. I'll just build another work table for it and everything. Thanks joey81!

I'm from San Diego

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Just to let you know guys, that it is possible to ship your entire garage full of tools from US to PI via balikbayan box. I have shipped all my tools, 2 car garage worth just recently. That's including Delta Unisaw (10 inch, 3 HP motor), floor standing Delta drill press, rockwell 14" bandsaw, and 8" rockwell jointer along with other small stuff. All in all around 30 boxes worth of stuff. The boxes varied from standard, jumbo size and some odd sizes to handle the table saw Biesemeyer fence and rail (72" long, yup) and TS case. Not an easy task as I had to disassemble the big boys and box them good. THEY WERE HEAVY!!! Not too bad of shipping cost either; $1500 all in all. It all arrived in fairly good condition, the boxes were abused though as the contents were so heavy. I am now in the process of setting up the shop.

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That's great news RedBird! Where in the United States did you ship it from, and what company did you use? Two garage fulls in 30 boxes, that's like a full-time job on it's own, damn! Did you send 'em all at once, or a few at a time? Thanks for letting us know it's possible. I'd rather spend $40-60 shipping a box of my tools than spending all that money to get the same stuff, because as all of us know, tools don't come cheap. Great lookin ' out man, appreciate it!

Now I'm wondering if it would be cheaper to ship my 300 gallon acrylic tank here or just have one built? Anyone know anyone who builds custom acrylic fish tanks here? Ill start a new thread regarding that.

Peace,
Fearless

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All in all around 30 boxes worth of stuff ... $1500 all in all.

For that volume, did you try getting a quote for something like LCL (Less than Container Load) instead of shipping individual boxes?

For shipping a partial or full household, I wonder at what point it becomes better (in terms of cost and effort) to do it by LCL.

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For that volume, did you try getting a quote for something like LCL (Less than Container Load) instead of shipping individual boxes?

For shipping a partial or full household, I wonder at what point it becomes better (in terms of cost and effort) to do it by LCL.

The main issue with shipping (I found) is not to get too cheap by loading it in LCL. If you ship yourself in a container, you will have to handle the custom duties on your own. Even if you use a forwarder, they will pass it on you as they clear the cargo in Manila. We all know how that will go, your risk is that you will be at the mercy of the forwarder and custom officers for additional cost, while your cargo sits on the compound. I have collected my tools for 10 years, going to the US flea market every weekend, and I was not about to let it sit there or have custom officers go through them.

The balikbayan boxes are fixed cost. If you can fit your tools inside then its $50 standard or $75 for jumbo respectively. They will also quote you for the odd size boxes. It's better to ship all at once to get a better deal; I did. I shipped the boxes all the way from Reno, Nevada. LBC, SBC, Forex and others are the balikbayan boxes forwarders in the US. From what I've been told these companies have made arrangements with PI customs for balikbayan shipments to Manila. Once you declare old personal tools inside, you should be OK. To be honest, I was really concerned not due to custom duties, but the possibility of theft. I'm glad that the all the boxes arrived safely.

Now for the tools shipped. I have disassembled almost all the big items to fit inside the box. For parts bigger than standard, I boxed them separately. I shipped metal pipes for pony clamps, thickness planer, grinders, and 100 pieces of Stanley hand planes (no 2 to no 8), wood chissels along with others mentioned earlier. Please note this! The items are heavy metal pieces. Make sure to secure them and pack them heavy inside as they will get push and thrown around during shipping. For hand tools and smaller items, I packed in a smaller boxes. The standard boxes will give and any loose items will get lost if the boxes breaks. The boxes will be heavy for one person to carry and they get abused. Common sense is the key.

My opinion on shipping tools from the US? It is well worth the effort. The stuff I bought from weekend flea markets are so cheap, good quality, and very hard to find here in the Philippines. The cabinet saw that we can buy from Craigslist is a bargain as they are very hard to find here. I believe a lot of woodworkers here are using the contractor duty table saw, not the cabinet type. There are also a lot of cabinet shops that are going out of business, ripe for the pickin'. However, I highly recommend the flea markets, you can buy them there for nickels and dimes. I spent 10 years doing so.

I will try to get involved more in contributing to this forum as I set up my shop. If you have any more questions on my shipping exercise, please let me know.

Thanks for reading, sorry it is so long......