Guys,
Baka meron kayong alam na supplier ng kamagong, I need 2 pcs 1" x 4" x 5' and 2 pcs 1" x 4" x 4'... salamat po 🙂
I'm also open for suggestions in case may alam kayong hardwood na dark colored instead of kamagong.
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baka you will find a hard time looking for the size that you want since its not the usual size, the 1 x 4 x 4 is at least a bit easy kasi thats 1 pc na 1 x 4 x 8 ft, yung 1 x 4 x 5 medyo alanganin, you might have to pay for the whole 8ft
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Been watching this thread since I, too, would love to work with some kamagong. Does anyone know a source in whatever size?
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what kind of kamagong? medyo marami klase ang kamagong from all black to almost may dark part lang
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I think there is only one kind of kamagong. Just depends on how the wood is cut. (But that is probably what you meant).
From my limited observation, it appears that the black section of kamagong wood is the inner part which is also the hardest and densest and therefore produces the most glass-like finish. The white section is probably the outer part of the wood, nearest the bark. Please do confirm or debunk my theory as it purely from a non-expert observation.
I like black kamagong with streaks of white. The "two-tone" affords you the opportunity to play with interesting patterns when putting wood together.
But the real challenge is making the subtle monochromatic grain within the black part. I personally have been frustrated trying to do this. When I sand the black part, the nice gently curving gray-black grain comes out. But when I apply oil, the contrast disappears. I'd appreciate if someone can share a technique here.
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yung napagtanungan ko kasi ask me kung ano klase kamagong yung itim(pinakamahal) then tiger at yung put, sya yung mas marami ing puti kaysa sa itim (mas mura and mas marami).
Didnt know na nasa pagputol din pala iyon may itim. For me kasi mas gusto yung itim tapos may konting puti lang para makita lang ang wood grain.
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Been working with it for a bit. It's great wood, looks amazing. And apparently there are many sub species of it, so that's why some will ask you what kind. Malaysian blackwood is one of them, tiger ebony, and Macassar ebony too. Madami pa daw.
But it likes to move once you resaw it, and if you don't clamp or press it for a few days it will warp on you, especially the bigger boards. It's also prone to checking if you don't seal the ends after resawing it. So unless you've had it in your shop for some time expect it to move when you work on it. I'm also allergic to it, so a mask is a must.
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But it likes to move once you resaw it, and if you don't clamp or press it for a few days it will warp on you, especially the bigger boards. It's also prone to checking if you don't seal the ends after resawing it. So unless you've had it in your shop for some time expect it to move when you work on it. I'm also allergic to it, so a mask is a must.
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maybe it is because the wood is green... I haven't seen any movement on the same wood I have been using...
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I think it's because I get huge planks of it and resaw it. Whenever you deal with wood more than 6 inches thick and at least 12 inches across even though it's been kiln dried or seasoned it will still move when you cut it into smaller planks. But it is notorious for moving.
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sir tanung ko lang ano ang ginagamit nyo pangputol/lagari sa kamagong na ganun kakapal at lapad? Tablon na yata ang tawag sa ganyan eh. Minsan pa lang ako nakakita ng 12-14inches lapad super mahal ang gusto matanda, nakatambak sa bodega nya.(nagsisi ako bat hindi ko pa binili)
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Been working with it for a bit. It's great wood, looks amazing. And apparently there are many sub species of it, so that's why some will ask you what kind. Malaysian blackwood is one of them, tiger ebony, and Macassar ebony too. Madami pa daw.
But it likes to move once you resaw it, and if you don't clamp or press it for a few days it will warp on you, especially the bigger boards. It's also prone to checking if you don't seal the ends after resawing it. So unless you've had it in your shop for some time expect it to move when you work on it. I'm also allergic to it, so a mask is a must.
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Didn't realize there were subspecies. When talking about kamagong, I refer to the wood of the local mabolo fruit tree, endemic to the Philippines. Scientific name Diospyrus Philippinensis. Are the other subspecies also available locally?
On allergy to it, I'm not sure if I am, but I have noticed that when sanding and some dust gets into my eyes, it stings.
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Apparently there are many subspecies available here. The local lumberjacks just name them by their looks.
In one of my wood runs I discovered an old log of really black kamagong. When I had it resawn it looked black with greenish hues. To me it looked like Malaysian blackwood, ebonasea. So I sent pictures to Todd taggert, owner of allied lutherie in north ca and he said that he has guitar sets that looked exactly like mine. So I figured since Malaysia is near us, migratory birds may have brought it over here via crapping hehehe. I'll try to post a few pics of the wood, and whenever I go on a wood hunt I'm always on the lookout for really black kamagong. So it's very possible that the different kinds of diospyrus have been scattered here that way.
But I don't care how it got here, all I know that it's mine hahahaha
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Care to share your hunting grounds? I would also like to experiment working on different woods.
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hi ding,
just got your message. usually i go to valenzuela to look for kamagong. sometimes some warehouses have them in large planks, like 12x12x60 and sometimes bigger. tsambahan lang nga. you can come along when i go hunting again.
the thing with getting huge planks is that you'll never know what you're going to get until you've resawn it. it may look perfect on the outside, but they can sometimes hide the wormholes, cracks and other damage like rot and sometimes just plain ugly grain that will make the wood unusable. plus with recut wood you'll lose a few due to cracking and warping. and with kamagong the quality is a gamble. but when you get a good log, mannnn:
the blackwood sets. good for 6 guitars and 2 harp guitars still looking for more of this stuff
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Nice Super4 errr kamagong stash there J! :thumbup:
