I wanted to have an above table adjustment type of a router setup. After some research I was down to a couple of options.
1. Use a Triton 3 1/4HP coupled with a Kreg plate. I believe that the Triton mechanism is able to do this very well. A point of note is that the there are conflicting reviews in which they say that after the plunged is locked the router bit is a little woobly. This would be a nightmare especially for my target projects which are wide crown moldings.
2. Second is to use a JessEm router lift which gives me flexibility in the type of router to use and maybe just buying the router itself. The drawback is the cost itself which is twice as much as the first setup.
I would appreciate any feedback which could lean me to buying either one of the options.
Of course, I would be more than happy if there is another alternative.
Thanks.
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Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
I wanted to have an above table adjustment type of a router setup. After some research I was down to a couple of options.
1. Use a Triton 3 1/4HP coupled with a Kreg plate. I believe that the Triton mechanism is able to do this very well. A point of note is that the there are conflicting reviews in which they say that after the plunged is locked the router bit is a little woobly. This would be a nightmare especially for my target projects which are wide crown moldings.
2. Second is to use a JessEm router lift which gives me flexibility in the type of router to use and maybe just buying the router itself. The drawback is the cost itself which is twice as much as the first setup.
I would appreciate any feedback which could lean me to buying either one of the options.
Of course, I would be more than happy if there is another alternative.
Thanks.
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You might want to consider going pro equipment especially for crown moldings. There are entry level or mid level spindle shapers that are near the cost of the set up you are suggesting. Its full fenced and well accessorized. Amazon and Ebay has a lot of equipment sale nowadays you might get a good deal for the same cost as you plan to spend.
Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
You might want to consider going pro equipment especially for crown moldings. There are entry level or mid level spindle shapers that are near the cost of the set up you are suggesting. Its full fenced and well accessorized. Amazon and Ebay has a lot of equipment sale nowadays you might get a good deal for the same cost as you plan to spend.
Thanks for the advise sir, tingnan ko mabrowse sa amazon.
Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
That wobbling issue with the Triton I think is just an exception. Browse through routerforums.com and you'll find out that a great majority of Triton owners are satisfied with its performance.
Sayang na-late ka nang konti. The TRA001 is currently selling for $199 at Amazon, pero naubos ang stock a couple of days ago.
Another 3.25 HP router that won't break the bank is the Hitachi M12V2. All praises din yan sa routerforums. Normal price is $199 and dips lower every now and then.
Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
Thank you Sir Joey.. the TRA001 is the first option. Sayang at di ko naabutan. I just placed an order for a kreg jig just the other day. Mga 14 days pa bago dumating dito sa akin ung order ko.
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Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
If I were you I'd order it now even if its out of stock. Locked na yung purchase price mo. They'll only charge your card when the router becomes available and they ship out our order.
Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
If I were you I'd order it now even if its out of stock. Locked na yung purchase price mo. They'll only charge your card when the router becomes available and they ship out our order.
Hi Sir, thank you. Will do that.
Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
In your introduction you said you plan to pursue buying into big ticket items. Coming from the same set up before I turned pro this was one of those things i wished I had invested sooner. With the heavy load of order and the complexity of moulding designs specially crown moulding large routers just couldn't handle what shapers can do. With a shaper you can use router bits via spindle collets w/c also come in 1/2" platform. Amazon has the Grizzly G1035P and the Shop Fox W1701 under 600USD. Here we have Jet and Torq, not sure of the models, though there are local dealers who can help you with the selection that will fit your budget. To use a table mounted router even at large capacity still won't cut it when you run deep and intricate designs as the entire machine is prone to vibration and this will reflect on the finish product. A shaper is designed to cushion the vibration of your feed pass and usually has a stronger bearing mount compared to the plastic bearing case of routers that usually deform or become loose when the router motor becomes hot over prolonged use. Just to set it up for table use is nearing the cost of a shaper with the JessEm table lift being 2x the price of the router not to mention the cost of a good fence system to go with it. In the end please bear in mind that a router is still an important tool in your arsenal but is not as efficient as a moulder shaper in a production scenario. Now if you intend to use it as a weekend buddy then that's a different story. Good luck!;)
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Sir Willy, thanks for the enlightenment. I had been looking at shaper that you mentioned and this will definitely be in my "to buy" list. More likely after the band saw.
I will go for the Triton option and use the money for the JessEm to invest on a shaper.
As you have mentioned, this will not be a weekend warrior kind of thing so getting pro equipment bit by bit could be the way. Although an expensive way. 🙂
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Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
Don't worry about the cost of initial set up. You are 70% as good as your tools and equipment leaving only 30% dependence on manpower. This alone saves you money. If your equipment come properly accessorized no need to spend on third party goodies, you save again. Pro equipment isn't prone to break down unlike handheld tools w/c are originally designed for medium load even if they have such large capacity motors they still require you to set up improvements to stabilize the tools, again you save here. I have burned 6 large capacity routers and 4 mid entry levels ranging from US and Japanese made. When i bought my shaper in 1998 I only operated 2 routers till now. My routers are used for small detail passes but the shaper still handles the simplest task like T&G and dado grooves. Just to run a 3" wide and 10mm deep canal on a router you'll need to do multiple passes but with a shaper it's just a single pass. Now you really save here in terms of production time, manpower and electricity cost not to mention a smooth consistent result w/c will eventually reduce your finishing prep cost. How's that for savings? Now you realize that the extra $$$ on acquisition will be offset immediately once you go into production. :no1:
Re: Need a little help regarding router decision
Don't worry about the cost of initial set up. You are 70% as good as your tools and equipment leaving only 30% dependence on manpower. This alone saves you money. If your equipment come properly accessorized no need to spend on third party goodies, you save again. Pro equipment isn't prone to break down unlike handheld tools w/c are originally designed for medium load even if they have such large capacity motors they still require you to set up improvements to stabilize the tools, again you save here. I have burned 6 large capacity routers and 4 mid entry levels ranging from US and Japanese made. When i bought my shaper in 1998 I only operated 2 routers till now. My routers are used for small detail passes but the shaper still handles the simplest task like T&G and dado grooves. Just to run a 3" wide and 10mm deep canal on a router you'll need to do multiple passes but with a shaper it's just a single pass. Now you really save here in terms of production time, manpower and electricity cost not to mention a smooth consistent result w/c will eventually reduce your finishing prep cost. How's that for savings? Now you realize that the extra $$$ on acquisition will be offset immediately once you go into production. :no1:
I'll keep it in mind sir. My dad had the foresight to plant mahogany trees 15 years ago. It used to be a small sugar cane field but it's not profitable. So he planted trees instead to avoid squatters. One of the main reason why I am going for the carpentry business.
Since I am a robotics guy, I'll put my personal touch on my projects. 🙂
