Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

sir, good day po. pwd po bang magtanong tungkol sa procedure pag finish ng plywood. bago lang po kasi ako and hirap mg finish ng plywood. anu po ba ang una. sanding sealer or stain. ang ginawa ko po kasi stain una then overnyt pg umaga ng sanding sealer ako then nagcoat po ng clear gloss lacquer. pero hndi po msyadong mganda ung finish. tpos ano po ibig sabihin ng 2 coats ng sanding sealer, after po mgdry nung sealer ng lagay ulit kayo ng sealer or alternate ung pg coat ng sealer at clear gloss. pxnxa n po dami tanong.thanks po sir.

@jeavons:

My regular procedure is something like this:

1. Sand the wood- sa umpisa 120 grit muna, then use 380 or 400 grit na sandpaper sa final sanding ng wood.

2. Oil stain - inuuna ko ang stain kung gusto ko lumabas ang grain pattern ng kahoy, pwede rin gawin after first coat ng sanding sealer kung gusto mo pantay ang stain.

3. First coat of sanding sealer.
4. After mag dry ang first coat, sand using 400 grit. Option to stain uli para mag dark ang kulay.
5. 2nd coat nd Sanding sealer.
6. sand uli ng 400 grit pero very very light lang para di mapanot ang coat.
7. Clear top coat (option to have a 2nd topcoat)

I only use lacquer based coats para madali matuyo.

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

sir, maraming salamat po. ill try your procedure. sana magawa ko rin. ang ganda nung gawa nu. cge po Godbless!

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

Wait may nakalimutang step..para sa hardwood yung procedure na nasa itaas. For plywood, after sanding the bare wood you need to close those malalalim na grain sa plywood. Maraming choices na pwede gamitin na wood putty..maghanap ka na lang sa wilcon or sa mga hardware..pinakamura is yung lacquer base na putty. Pero ang gamit ko talaga ay boysen alkyd oil based wood filler pero medyo tricky ang pag apply kung di ka sanay so better use lacquer base wood putty like Fula Tite. Kung walang putty may mga butas pa rin ang finish.
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Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

Wait may nakalimutang step..para sa hardwood yung procedure na nasa itaas. For plywood, after sanding the bare wood you need to close those malalalim na grain sa plywood. Maraming choices na pwede gamitin na wood putty..maghanap ka na lang sa wilcon or sa mga hardware..pinakamura is yung lacquer base na putty. Pero ang gamit ko talaga ay boysen alkyd oil based wood filler pero medyo tricky ang pag apply kung di ka sanay so better use lacquer base wood putty like Fula Tite. Kung walang putty may mga butas pa rin ang finish.
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ok sir thanks po sa additional info.. ung wood putty po ba ay transparent rin pag nag dry? yung boysen lacquer spot putty po ba yung tinutukoy nyo na wood putty? sana di sya makaaffect sa color ng pag stain. gagamit po ako ng mahogany stain. boysen sanding sealer and boysen lacquer clear gloss sa marine plywood. ung pag apply po ng sanding sealer pwede po ba gamitan ng brush or cloth? yung clear gloss po plan ko gamitan ng spray. thanks sir. newbie po sa woodworking kaya daming tanong.

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

I haven't seen or tried boysen's lacquer spot putty. Most putty is stainable naman, yes sanding sealer can be applied by brush, cloth, or by spray. Pag fula tite ang gamit ko hinahaluan ko na sya ng tinting color na close sa color ng wood.

para fail free ang finishing mo gamitan mo rin ng boysen lacquer thinner, medyo mahal nga lang kesa sa bote bote.

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

ok sir. thanks po ulit. ung wood putty, i assume, iaaply sya all over the plywood. so i think mcocover nito ung grain ng plywood. or magiging transparent or visible p rin p rin po ung grain?

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

ok sir. thanks po ulit. ung wood putty, i assume, iaaply sya all over the plywood. so i think mcocover nito ung grain ng plywood. or magiging transparent or visible p rin p rin po ung grain?

yes after sanding lilitaw uli yung grain ng plywood so dapat manipis lang ang apply. Since beginner ka pa lang try mo yung mga waterbased wood filler like Timbermate or Pye madali kasing i-apply and madali rin controlin unlike lacquer base madali matuyo sa paleta and medyo messy ang pag apply..marami sa Wilcon or Ace

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ok sir. thanks po. how about the coloring of the putty? the one you said about the tinting colors. what should i use? i bought a can of lacquer wood putty just this moment tried it to a scrap plywood sanded, and stained it. the color of the putty just wouldnt match with the wood. aw...

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

ok sir. thanks po. how about the coloring of the putty? the one you said about the tinting colors. what should i use? i bought a can of lacquer wood putty just this moment tried it to a scrap plywood sanded, and stained it. the color of the putty just wouldnt match with the wood. aw...

baka masyado makapal ang pahid mo natabunan pati surface ng plywood..you should thin it down with lacquer thinner. Now you should sand it thoroughly until mawala ang putty sa surface... Oil based tinting colors ang gamit ko..start with raw sienna and venetian red..just mix them to your thinned putty until you match the color of your wood.

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hello sir. im trying and experimenting with the procedures that you suggested ill keep you posted. hinihintay ko lang yung paint sprayer ko dumating. so ngayon brush brush lang ako ng lahat ng applications sa wood. medyo hindi ko gusto yung finish ng brush. hindi pantay.

medyo struggle ako sa materials, mahirap kasi dito samin bumili ng woodworking items, yung mga hardware puro general construction supplies lang ang itinitinda medyo suplada pa ang mga tindera. di sila nag eentertain ng customer na tanong ng tanong. hehe. yung nearest citi hardware, ace hardware, and handy man 1 hour ride galing dito. ill see if i can buy the supplies this weekend. thanks a lot sir.

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

hello sir. im trying and experimenting with the procedures that you suggested ill keep you posted. hinihintay ko lang yung paint sprayer ko dumating. so ngayon brush brush lang ako ng lahat ng applications sa wood. medyo hindi ko gusto yung finish ng brush. hindi pantay.

medyo struggle ako sa materials, mahirap kasi dito samin bumili ng woodworking items, yung mga hardware puro general construction supplies lang ang itinitinda medyo suplada pa ang mga tindera. di sila nag eentertain ng customer na tanong ng tanong. hehe. yung nearest citi hardware, ace hardware, and handy man 1 hour ride galing dito. ill see if i can buy the supplies this weekend. thanks a lot sir.

hi jeavons: its good that you have patience in experimenting the finishing procedure..same here bago ko ma-finalize mga procedure ko madaming failure rin muna sa mga boxes na ginawa ko..there's no shortcut to success talaga..

please take note that the procedure i shared with you is from my own experiment lang din and not necessarily the standard procedure of general furniture finishes. Lacquer based finishes is the quickest and most economical among that i have tested..but you will have to struggle talaga in the beginning.

When you make your lacquer putty, kelangan mo ma-achieve mo yung viscosity ng slime or condensed milk then add tinting color of your desired shade. What I do is I prepare a small mangkok and do the mixing there, then you need to work fast in applying the putty (now became filler). Use only boysen lacquer thinner (bumili ka ng tingi 1 liter sa mga paint store).

But now, since medyo malalaki na ang plywood projects ko, i graduated na sa lacquer based putty coz im now using alkyd oil based wood filler but more complicated procedure.

My most desired wood filling procedure is to use waterbased wood filler (Timbermate or PYE) because madali i-apply, madulas and konte lang ang waste, being waterbased is water lang ang thinner, madali i-sand and madali kapitan ng stain...but...mahal nga lang.

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

DIY oil stain lahat ginamit ko jan using 4 different tinting colors; venetian red, raw sienna, burnt sienna, and lamp black.

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pano mo tinitimpla yung tinting colors mo sir?i mean anong hinahalo,thinner ba?

pano mo tinitimpla yung tinting colors mo sir?i mean anong hinahalo,thinner ba?

@ruel_g:

Yes, paint thinner ang gamit ko...ayun yung bote oh he he...pwede rin kerosene..praktis ka lang.
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Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

hello again sir.
eto na po yung result ng pag try ko magfinish ng scrap plywood. medyo kita p yung brush strokes pero sana mawala pag sprayer na ang gamit ko. di ako nakapunta ng city last weekend so yung available lang na materials ang gamit ko. lacquer based putty, stain sealer and 2 coats ng clear gloss lacquer.

yung bookshelf po ang ittry kong ifinish. thanks sir for the help. im going to post the final result.

may plan B rin ako. pipinturahan ko lahat pag di nag work yung plan A. hehe

Re: Shoe Cabinet - Small and simple plywood furniture.

hello again sir.
eto na po yung result ng pag try ko magfinish ng scrap plywood. medyo kita p yung brush strokes pero sana mawala pag sprayer na ang gamit ko. di ako nakapunta ng city last weekend so yung available lang na materials ang gamit ko. lacquer based putty, stain sealer and 2 coats ng clear gloss lacquer.

yung bookshelf po ang ittry kong ifinish. thanks sir for the help. im going to post the final result.

may plan B rin ako. pipinturahan ko lahat pag di nag work yung plan A. hehe

not bad jaevons on your first plywood project, para mawala ang brush strokes i-sand mo pa using 200 grit then followed by 400 grit sandpaper..then sanding sealer uli bago mag clear gloss. Nice looking bookshelf.