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hmmmmm i will give this adjustment trouble shoot a few more days. If i really cant adjust it i will start working some pieces on it.. with the riving knife and blade guard attachment of course (dont want to get any flying wood planks on my face) Just to see how it turns out. If i can do some tenon cuts with a tenoning jig on it, then i'll be a happy camper 🙂

With ply wood stocks should be no problem (this is what i will be using it mostly )

 
Posted : 01/02/2010 10:32 pm
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FIIXEDDDDDD!!!!

I was getting impatient and had already made calls to Panda Const. for service and Hans tools as backup (hans tools service Jet power tools)

So i went back home after coming back from the hospital.. I decided to take a look at the flange assembly one more time... took the nut out , the flange too, then took the blade out then i notice i can take the base (arbor?) out as well. So i took it out... then popped out with it was a washer.........

And when i peeked inside there was another washer. a larger diameter although same sized hole. I decided to re-assemble without the washer that popped out with it.....

Now... it spins true!!!! will post pics in a short while.

Thank you Timber and Incc for your enthusiastic help. I also hope that somehow i had also contributed something for future referrence. Pics to come in a few hours. I cant push my luck too far in the office 🙂

Going back to the washer. this is one of two washers inside. I personally dont see the need.. but in your opinion... do i need it?

 
Posted : 02/02/2010 1:51 pm
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flange and blade disaasembly

Here you can see the arbor(? tama ba?) or the base where the blade sits

Here is the washer on top of the arbor (?)

The washer will either be replaced or left unattached. I sprayed copiuos amount of WD40. I suspect gel type gear lubricant may be better

 
Posted : 02/02/2010 2:19 pm
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Congratulations Bee. Maybe the washer was just not sitting properly. I'm pretty sure you'll see this for yourself but the blade may no longer be centered in the slot so the washer may be necessary. You could make another slot but I imagine then the scale (ruler) would then be off and need adjustment. Just the same, knowing the source of the problem is more than half the problem solved.

 
Posted : 03/02/2010 11:55 am
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keep the washer bee, it must be a spacer for blades with bigger arbor holes... with your blade, No you don't need it... like I said, do keep it...


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Posted : 03/02/2010 12:18 pm
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Incc, Not being centered is ok since i am making (made..sort of) my own insert.

Timber. The washer is on the other face of the arbor, where it faces the motor?. not where the blade attaches.

New (sort of old) problem. the blade is not parallel to the miter gauge. but no longer has the wiggle effect... lalalala. I realized a Sled will not work at all coz by the time the lower part oif the sled gets to the upper part of the TS.. we would see a gap. The alignment of the blade is the upper part is to the right

 
Posted : 03/02/2010 4:20 pm
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i decided to put the washers back in. Cleaning everything squeeky

so the washers that space the motor (?) and the arbor are cleaned meticulously. It had no more wobble.

hmmm Definitely an assembly issue...

Now the parallelism of the blade to the miter. I have to locate the rear trunion or watchamacallit.. so it can shift it since i found out i cant shift the table independently of the saw blade since the saw moto is fimrly bolted on the table top.

Once this is done.. only one more adjustment to go.... The bloody unleveled table itself...

I still think its worth 10K that i paid for 🙂

 
Posted : 04/02/2010 10:28 am
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I still think its worth 10K that i paid for 🙂

thats good to hear, now finish up and start posting WIPs... lol


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Posted : 04/02/2010 10:38 am
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progress.. no matter how little... is progress.... or something to that effect!

I have found the trunion nuts (it maynot be the trunion but its definitely the nuts that will make my blade parallel to the miter slot)

but i have problem..

the space is waaaay too tight!!!

 
Posted : 04/02/2010 10:08 pm
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from the net's tune up tips on table saw. I find that the JTS10 is built a little differently. The nut being emphasized in the previous post is not the trunion. the thing may or may not have a trunion depending on how you interpret (riving knife or splitter kinda thing)

The saw motor mounts only at the outfeed side of the table top. there is no mounting in the infeed side. Which is uncommon for direct drive saws

The mounting on the outfeed end, the plate with four screws i mentioned in some posts before this does not do any angle orienting of the blade. it simply clamps down a small shaft (that holds the motor) thats set into place by bulges" underneath the table top. These bulges are FIXED.. grrrr

So now my question. Those nuts... short of dis assembly of the power unit (which can be done, but i want to avoid it) how can i loosen the nuts? There are two nuts , very close to one another. normal wrenches wont do so i suspect socket wrenches will have tobe used... but is there a way to squeeze in there?

 
Posted : 05/02/2010 12:41 am
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Hmmmm there is not better way than having the right tool. Slim body sockets / wrenches are available but if you can't find one then try to modify a regular one. You can buy some cheap wrench or socket and grind these to fit on a bench grinder.

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Posted : 05/02/2010 11:45 am
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Hmmmm there is not better way than having the right tool. Slim body sockets / wrenches are available but if you can't find one then try to modify a regular one. You can buy some cheap wrench or socket and grind these to fit on a bench grinder.

Yeah, true.. i can feel that now. But i was hoping i could get a bargain. 🙁

I finally got the blade parallel and the nuts i showed in the pic. its a set of four not two!

now i saw another problem which probably has no solution. The parallelness of the blade is oriented only at at certain HEIGHT!!! WHAT THE #%@#^&^%$

At different height the orientation of the blade changes! how $%$@$#% is that

but then i have to suck it up since it was my decision to splurge instead of saving and waiting for a better one

oh well.. will see again tomorrow if there is still hope forthat problem

 
Posted : 05/02/2010 11:17 pm
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I made a quick cross cut sled using the sled foot of the miter guage. Seems to cut ok even at different heights.

and since the piece now sits on a flat surface, the cut is really squared in and clean!

now if i can rip wood just as good then this is going to be a worth while tool

 
Posted : 07/02/2010 10:06 pm
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Hi Beebeenator

Thought I'd give my 2 cents worth of suggestions......

I currently have a Taiwan made contractors saw with a fairly old but reliable fence. If you say your blade isn't aligned with your fence, try looking for the solution on the other end of the problem. Since I don't trust my fence to be 100% accurate, I always adjust the fence so its parallel to the blade. Mine has two bolts on the top of the fence to adjust the alignment of the fence. After which I always measure the distance of the front and back edge of the blade against the fence to ensure the fence is parallel to the blade.

If all else fails, try adjusting the mounting of the trunion assembly. If there's way to dissassemble the entire motor-trunion-arbor unit from the tabletop mount underneath, I bet the holes of the mount can be enlarged enough to swing the entire assembly just a little bit to make it parallel with your fence.

Like I said - 2 cents worth......

 
Posted : 08/02/2010 10:58 am
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Above is worth trying. If you could make this saw cut true then it would have been a good deal. The Bosch 4100 saw cuts true but is 3 times plus more expensive excluding step down transformer cost. That's around 25K of extra tools you can buy with the savings.

Millermatic 180 Autoset Mig Welder
Miller Spoolmate 100 Spool Gun
Victor Firepower 350 Oxy Ace Outfit
3M Speedglas 9002X AD Helmet
Makita LC1230 Dry Cut Saw
Ingersoll Rand Air Tools
Snap On Tools
Metabo Power Tools
Norseman Drill Cutting Tools
Bosch Power Tools
3M PPS

 
Posted : 08/02/2010 12:51 pm
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