Re: jet jts10 first impressions

Hi WorkBench

The saw doesnt have a trunion setup.

it has a "footing" that is attached to the bottom side of the table top. From that foot there attaches the motor and saw assembly. So there is only one point of support and orientation.

I think its in one of the pics i posted. The one where i thought there were only two nuts but i found out there were four. This "footing" is attached on the infeed side of things. There is nothing supporting the saw on the outfeed side

I have gotton the orientation, angle and everything all perfectly aligned at max saw height. However i noticed as i lower the saw blade the motor deflects as it lowers. The outfeed end of the blade tends to veer to the left and then the arbor assembly seems to Shift (or strafe) to the right. I saw this when making a zero clearance insert.

I can live with the saw blade being on max height for the cross cuts since a crosscut sled works flawlessly. I am making a ripping sled (hence i need an extension outfeed and infeed table with miter slot) so i can junk the rip fence (although it can be shimmed to orient to the saw)

The thing now is i have to always have the saw guard and splitter present to save my head from blunt force trauma

Re: jet jts10 first impressions

Bee it would be safer if you aligned it at whatever usual height you use though this would probably require that you recalibrate when using it at full-height.

Could it be that the housing sides, to which the assembly is mounted, is deflecting? If so then you might try adding a doubler plate to stiffen the side. It would really be better for you if you can get it working as it should. Can't you take it back and have it replaced?

Actually, I don't use the table saw for crosscuts. I use a 10" GMC miter saw which I believe costs something like P3500 ... but this is when I'm lazy, usually I use the Japanese pullsaw.

Re: jet jts10 first impressions

Could it be that the housing sides, to which the assembly is mounted, is deflecting? If so then you might try adding a doubler plate to stiffen the side. It would really be better for you if you can get it working as it should. Can't you take it back and have it replaced?

Whats a doubler plate? 🙂 Where did you get your japanese saw? when i was in Tokyo i was tempted to get all the japanese saws in tokyu hands 🙂 but at the time i wasnt that into it yet 🙁

Re: jet jts10 first impressions

i did not expect this to be this accurate. its squared on all four sides!

Re: jet jts10 first impressions

That's a real wide cutting sled you have there. Congrats Bee. Hope the saw serves you well.

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Hi Bee,

Getting back to your tablesaw, I looked at your pics again and I agree that its the "footing" that will need adjustment in order to align your blade to the miter guides. As I see it, if the holes of the footing are dead tight and have no play at all, I would suggest loosening 3 of the holes with a slightly larger drill bit and attempting to swing the blade/motor assembly into alignment. As for the deflection - this may sound silly - but does vacuum hose pull of the blade assembly in any way to cause the deflection?

BTW, you mentioned that you got to go to tokyo and look at some japanese pull saws. If you have the chance again, please do get them for yourself - a good ryoba and a dozuki. Once you've tried these saws, you might never go back to a western style saw. 8)

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The "doubler plate" would be just a piece of stiff metal you'd put between the sheet metal case and the foot of the saw assembly. Think of it like a big washer.

I get my Japanese saws through a Japanese friend who visits regularly. Here is the website of the saws I use: http://z-saw.co.jp/uk/Handsaw_2.html . They're a bit expensive but worth it IMHO. Yeah, my western saws are still super sharp from not being used.

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Workbench,
The vacuum hose might be it. hopefully it is! i will fiddle it today. I already aligned the blade by looseing the bolts on the 'footing'. So if there if it is the hose then there should be no deflection and it should be aligned at any height level... hopefully this works.. otherwise iam sending it back to Panda.

Inc63,
are you referring to the one iwth four screws?

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Yup. You referred to it as the "footing".

I think having it replace is a good idea.

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Workbench,
The vacuum hose might be it. hopefully it is! i will fiddle it today. I already aligned the blade by looseing the bolts on the 'footing'. So if there if it is the hose then there should be no deflection and it should be aligned at any height level... hopefully this works.. otherwise iam sending it back to Panda.

I don't really think Panda could be much of help, you or we would be in a better position to fix this. having it replaced would only make you start over. it is worth a try if you prefer... I hate to say the usual phrase but, ... you get what you pay for. (I actually have firsthand experience on it too...)

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my sentiments are exactly the same with Timber thats why i have hesitated to have it sent back to Panda unless i really cant solve the deflection issue. I dont think the next Jet jts10 i get will be any better.

other buyers may also have this problem but may not have noticed it initially. I noticed it straight away when i made the zero insert.

Re: jet jts10 first impressions

Update on my impression,

The cross cut sled i made works PERFECT and its size is an advantage, I can make perfectly squared cuts esp. useful for stocks over 6 inch wide (cant cut with the miter saw) i can also make perfect mitered cuts where the width is too wide for the miter saw

The rip sled i made also works perfect

Hence the Table saw is a pretty good bang for buck. I disregard the fact that i may never use the mitered cut capability of the table saw

Ripsled allows to be used as jointer too

weeee 🙂

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beebeenator,

where did you buy this jet saw?

thanks

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Hi Rolly So sorry i only saw your post today

i got it at panda construction supply along araneta avenue. I will post a followup review in a few minuites after this post

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I felt so depressed for a week because i cant use the the ripping function of the TS all the while thinking the fence is not squared on the blade once locked and that it was too wobbly. my ripping sled jig can only handle stocks as long as the rip sled which keeps ripping length limited.

But today too much depression made me determined. fiddled the fence assembly and apparently i was wrong about it not being squared. Since the blade was re oriented to be squared on the miter slot and THANKFULLY the miter slot is squared on the edge where the fence rail is attached Hence the fence now works!!!! and the wobbly ness was fixed by some tightening the bolts that fasten the fence rail to the table

I dont bother with the miter slot since i use a crosscut sled

another annoying thing with this saw is that the cast table top is not perfectly flat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but it still does ok for most cuts unless you need a really accurate squared cut.

A future fix for this is adding a 1/4 sheet of phenolic plastic over the cast iron to serve as a "new" top.

Then there is the insert plate. the top of the plate once installed is lower than the cast iron top. I had to shim it with washer to raise it to more or less same level

Now iam happy that i can rip loooooooooooooong pieces safely. I was tempted to rob a bank and buy a 2703 makita. Just a few days ago i told lncc i wanted to throw this away hahaha. Maybe not yet.

Its really a mixed feeling.