Golden let me borrow his Skil Router (I think it's the 1830) and been using it for the past few weeks now. Built my table saw stand and tool cabinet with it as well as a bunch of doodads here and there just to put it through the paces. I thought I may as well put it to some test as a favor for Golden.
My opinion: This is a to-die-for router. I've used other routers before. But this router really got me excited. If Bosch is not careful, it could eat into the Bosch 1617 market.
I know, I know, the Bosch tools are made of tougher stuff than Skil. But I find that for hobbyists' power tools, unlike hand tools, life expectancy is shorter; not because of durability, but because of evolution. We want better toys all the time!
I saw the Skil 1830 announced in finewoodworking.com so I posted the comment below:
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I have been using one for the past few weeks now. Robert Bosch Phil (I am in Manila, Phil) offered to let our handyman club test drive it and I got to be the lucky one.
Everything works as it should. I like the lightness/heft of it.
I find I always start right on the mark because the soft start doesn't jerk me off my target and the LED light really brightly shows me where I am, even in a flurry of wood dust. I tried routing a straight cut without a fence, just eyeballing it, and somehow did it right. I will always use a fence for straight cuts, though; too nerve-wracking without it, just trying to see how stable this router is.
The motor is not as noisy as my Maktec plunge router and runs very smooth. I have not done some caliper-measured accuracy tests but with how solid the router feels when it's working, the absence of any vibration gives me confidence it cuts true. The dual switch also provides flexibility when groping around on turning on/off.
The depth adjustment is just sweet. In my old router I would make several test cuts on a piece of scrap wood to adjust depth and was a chore since the knob was too tight. With the Skil , I test once, measure the test cut depth, adjust using the router's knob, then, usually, just one more test cut. I probably could eliminate test cuts and just stick to measuring (the 1830's gauge seemed accurate so far) but most woodworkers would probably tell you there's nothing more confidence building than a good test cut.
My only complaint is that the base, made of hard, clear plastic looks somewhat brittle. Never tried to test its breaking point but, probably, some care would make it last. Bosch Phil though tells me it's made of tough plastic.
I wish I had the fixed base. I tried mounting it on my Bosch RA1181 Router Table but the spring on the plunge base keeps springing back and haven't had the time and confidence enough to dismantle it and remove the spring. The depth lock works just fine with the router upright. But upside-down, the combination of gravity and spring force is just too much for the lock. But who am I to complain? I was using the plunge base not for its intended purpose.
Looking at the photo of the fixed base, the micro-fine adjustment knob seems to be in the same place as the plunge base. In my often-failed, attempt at using the plunge base on the router table, I waas pleased to find that the adjustment knob's position is well thought: the router is mounted on the table with the knob just right in front of you.
I wonder if the motor is the same dimension as the Bosch 1617/1618. If it is, this would also be a winner paired with the Bosch RA1165 Router Lift.
While I do a lot of woodworking (building a 22-foot strip-planked sailboat at the moment), I am still a weekend hobbyist. For my use, the Skil 1830 is the perfect value-for-money tool.
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Any pics ?
Do you think it will work well with the RA1181 RT given the correct base?
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It most likely would. I've been doing it using the plunge base but had to wedge something underneath so it won't spring down. Micro adjustment's in the right place. Also, the LED somewhat illuminates your work area, even though upside down.
Can't wait to get info from Golden if this would fit the Bosch 1165 Router Lift.
Will post photo tomorrow.
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Will post photo tomorrow.
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It most likely would. I've been doing it using the plunge base but had to wedge something underneath so it won't spring down. Micro adjustment's in the right place. Also, the LED somewhat illuminates your work area, even though upside down.
Can't wait to get info from Golden if this would fit the Bosch 1165 Router Lift.
Will post photo tomorrow.
That's the same lift installed in my Bosch RA1181 RT. It is the fixed base for the Bosch 1617EVS. If the Skil fits then it's compatible with the 1617.
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Does the Skil router body look like this?
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You just dashed my hopes. No, the Skil router doesn't look anything like that.
My router table base is attached to it in my vain attempt at using the plunge base on the table. The original base is that clear plastic on the side. Still think it's brittle, GOlden says it's tough enough.
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Here's the motor:
I noticed, too that the body is made of plastic. Looks tough enough. But, I guess, that's what makes the Bosch more expensive than the Skil.
The router is intentionally dirty. Hopefully, Golden will find it looks so bad that he wouldn't want to take it back!
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I got excited too. If it fits the lift then it's an option for me to free the 1617 for plunge use and have a Skil permanently live on the portable RT. 🙁
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Confirmed. This new router will not fit the Bosch Router Lift. Message from Skil below:
[COLOR="Blue"]Thank you for writing. I am happy to read about your interest in Skil tools. Unfortunately, the Bosch RA1165 is only designed to accept Bosch router models 1617 and 1618 series. At this present time we do not offer the RA1165 accessory equivalent for the Skil line of tools.
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the good news is the price... it should be in the sub 6k for this router....
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So is this one, confirmed to be release na? I need a new one for handheld dovetails in one of my commissioned works. dreaming nanaman = p
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wahhhhhhhhhh
i am selling a couple of my watches for this one once its released! finally a dedicated variable speed plunge router 🙂
6K price is pretty damn good
this one is from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Skil-1830-120V-Combo-Router/dp/B004SKY73O%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAIAQZ4FH4V5MOXXWA%26tag%3Dbuybestsales-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB004SKY73O
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If the price is for real, I'll get one for myself too. Man the 6K price is a damn good price. I have already a SKIL power saw,( CS ) maybe I'll start my woodworking power tools with this and hopefully start cutting wood too for some projects soon. Or maybe start learning the ins and outs of woodworking.
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news is, the Skil router will be released this month. so ready your budget na...:soon:
oh did I mention lalabas na rin yung Bosch TS soon? :headache:
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