Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

How about making one? Wood with brass bushing might work. The bushing from an electric fan repair shop should work and they're cheap. Also, I think I've seen a free plan somewhere but sorry I can't remember, just do a search of it.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

I have found a plan for a pocket hole jig but I am no pro at building stuff like this from bobsplans website.

(I can't post the link as the site requires me to have more than 5 posts first before I can post links)

I just really hope I can just buy this tool.

I've heard that there are lots of stores in Binondo selling various tools and I am planning to go there soon.

Can anyone tell me where in Binondo can I possibly find special tools like this one?

Thanks.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

A machine shop might be able to make one.

Sorry bro but I don't buy tools in Binondo. Usually, I make my one jigs.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

http://www.kregtool.com/products/pht/product.php?PRODUCT_ID=32

I ordered a kit like this but have not received it yet.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

I finally got the Kreg Kit.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

I finally got the Kreg Kit.

huwawww.... drooling...

congrats sir! wish i have one... how much it cost you including shipping?

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

I'm happy with the kit. Seems durable enough for heavy DIY use.

I believe I paid around $39.95 for the Kreg R3 Jig and an additional $19.36 for the Kreg Vise Grip like clamp.

Shipping was free as it was small enough to be hand carried by a friend who came home for a vacation from the US.

http://www.amazon.com/Kreg-KHC-PREMIUM-Face-Clamp/dp/B001DC9UR8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1238175801&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Kreg-R3-Pocket-Hole-System/dp/B000J43A7W/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1238175749&sr=8-2

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

How about making one? Wood with brass bushing might work. The bushing from an electric fan repair shop should work and they're cheap. Also, I think I've seen a free plan somewhere but sorry I can't remember, just do a search of it.

From what I understand, correct me if wrong, the Kreg product/system consists of not just the [1] jig for drilling at an angle; but also

[2] a stepped drill bit that simulatenously drills, in workpiece 1, a loose (non-gripping) hole for the screw shaft and a large hole/pocket/well for the screw head; and

[3] special screws that are self-tapping/non-splitting and so do not require pilot holes to be drilled in workpiece 2.

Without the jig, special drill bit, and special screws, how could one do pocket hole joints? Would the following approach work ---

Assume we have to join a 2 x 4 piece to another 2 x 4 piece at right angles. Assume the screw is 4.5 mm in diameter with a 9 mm diameter screw head.

1. Use a drill press to drill a 5 mm hole in workpiece 1 at, say 25 degrees, such that the hole comes out at the end, at the center of the thickness. (I think that the Kreg angle is 15 degrees? But such a shallow angle might stress the drill bit too much on initial entry? Also, the length of the drill bit and the size of the chuck would limit how shallow the angle could be. One website says to use a sacrificial piece of wood, but if the angle is not so shallow, I wonder whether it is really needed?)

2. Without changing the drill press/workpiece setup, change drill bit to 9 mm and drill a pocket hole to an appropriate depth.

3. Repeat 1 and 2 to drill a second stepped (5 and 9 mm) hole in workpiece 1, assuming we want twin screws.

4. With workpiece 1 placed against workpiece 2, insert a screw, nail, awl, or similar through the holes in workpiece 1 to mark on workpiece 2 where the corresponding pilot holes should start.

5. Using a drill press or handheld drill with some kind of guide, drill 3.5 mm pilot holes in workpiece 2 at 25 degrees from perpendicular (65 degrees from workpiece).

Sounds complicated and a lot of steps, but would this procedure work well? Any suggestions for improving the workflow?

Are there any extra long 5 mm drill bits available locally?

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

Looks to me that it should work but would be too tedious to do. The main advantage of the jig is the ease and speed to pull the job. It has pocket hole adjustments for different material thickness as well.

The Kreg drill bit also is special and designed for pocket holes. Check these pics and maybe you can get some more ideas how to improve the process you want to do.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

Thanks, that helped.

Here is the jig that I made out of 2x4s and MDF, intended to be clamped to a drill press. After considering various possible angles from 15 to 30 degrees and calculating the resulting geometries and taking into account drill bit length and drill chuck clearance, I decided on 25 degrees.

In the Kreg jig, the bushing/guide keeps the drill bit from bending. In a DIY jig, a sacrificial piece of wood clamped to the piece being drilled would serve the same purpose.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

And here is a sample pocket hole made using the jig.

In this example, the screw is 4.5 x 60 mm. The shaft hole was made with a 5 mm bit. The pocket hole (for screw head) was made with a 9 mm bit, and is just deep enough for the screw head to be flush with surface. The pocket hole could be made deeper if desired.

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

thats great Guad, but what do you do when you want it on thinner or thicker wood?

Re: Where to buy pocket hole jig and drill bit?

The jig was designed for a specific application, pocket holes in 2-by pieces (of which large number have to be made).

For substantially thicker pieces, the limiting factor will be the length of the drill bit for the shaft hole, assuming you want to maintain an exit hole centered on the thickness of the piece. So find a longer bit. Or give up centered exit. Or make an adjustable jig where you can increase the angle. 🙂

For substantially thinner pieces, I think the limiting factor (if any) or concern may be the weakness of the wood/joint, as there is less wood between the shaft hole and the surface, than in lower-angle pocket holes. Make an adjustable jig where you can decrease the angle, such as down to the 15 degrees (?) of the Kreg jig. 🙂